September 27, 2008

  • Debate

    I watched the debate, and even though freetime is scarce for me, I wanted to post a few reflections before I go to bed.  First off, I have been fairly disappointed with the increasing liberalism of the Republican party.  The Democrats have also gone more to the left but voting for them is inconceivable, period.  At any rate, I am not excited about McCain, he has an annoying tendency to compromise with the Democrats, he is supposedly unwilling to raise taxes, which is good, but the man I wanted, Ron Paul, was going to abolish the IRS completely, which is better.  He also believes in the global warming myth, which is in a way playing into the hands of the UN.  Finally, I dislike the fact that he is divorced and remarried.  I tend to view divorce as perverse and wrong.  The only time divorce is legitimate is when adultury occurs, and even then it is still optional not required.  That having been said, I still find McCain preferential to Obama although I may vote 3rd party this time, a write in for Ron Paul perhaps.  And now my thoughts on the debate briefly:

    Of course I am greatly disturbed by Obama, although I find him less disturbing than John Kerry.  The Democrats keep fielding extreme left of left candidates and then they wonder why they aren’t elected?  Now, if they simply fielded another candidate like Bill “oral sex is not sex” Clinton or Jimmy Carter then I would vote 3rd party for sure because such a candidate would not be much more liberal than McCain, who is a liberal Republicam a.k.a. Neo-con.  But Obama disturbs me on many levels, and I think it is essential to keep him out, especially considering the fact that Congress is mostly Democrat.  But I digress…

    First of all, I had problems with the economic conversation.  Obama kept talking about cutting taxes to the “middle class” without specifying what the “middle class” was.  He needs to present an income range/define parameters.  The most money I ever made was about $27,000 a year, when I was living on my own being a fully productive member of society.  That was after the sharks at Washington DC took away a decent chunk of my paycheck, and then in addition I had to give them more money when tax time came around.  I was not by any reasonable means middle class, I was poor.  My roommate and I used to joke that we were upper lower class simply because we lived on the second floor of the apartment complex.  But what if the Democrats idea of “middle class” is actually an even lower income bracket than that?  The point is, I do not know, and even if it includes that range, then it would still be better to cut taxes across the board, and not just to the poor.  I not only had problems with the ideas but also the rhetoric, Obama kept saying that McCain wants to give money to the rich by lowering taxes to them.  Give money?  That has absolutely nothing to do with giving money, it is simply a matter of NOT TAKING (emphasis added).  Because it is their money in the first place, it is the government that takes the money, so it is not by any means a gift, but simply a matter of taking less.  If keeping the money you work for is a “gift” from the government then the only possible implication is that the government owns everything in the first place.  That sort of thinking is called communism, and it is an ideology practiced in the most oppressive countries in the world.  He also said that McCain wanted to cut taxes to the wealthy and the corporations who “never asked for it.”  This can only be an outright lie or a level of ignorance which I cannot fathom.  The “rich” may not have sent letters to Obama asking him to lower taxes, but that is an issue with the Republican constituency is concerned with.  That is why many of the wealthy vote Republican, they wish to keep their money, which is completely understandable.  It is also the reason why goods and services in Communist countries are typically so poor, because when governments confiscate the majority of people’s earnings it demotivates them and removes incentives for high performance. 

    Now, as to the international politics.  Obama really wants to invade Pakistan.  I have to say that I agree with McCain on Pakistan, and I was fairly amused he said in regard to Obama’s comments “you don’t say that.”  I realize that Aljazeera really would like for Pakistan to get bombed, but since when do we make policy based on what Aljazeera wants?  Granted Obama never said the views of the Islamic world determined his foreign policy (as far as I know), but he sure is lined up well with the will of Aljazeera.  I do not know whether it is because of his Islamic upbringing, or because of all the support and money he received from Islamic countries, but I find it disturbing.  Especially considering how few allies the US has in the Islamic world (which generally hates the US and western culture, but then, I too hate western culture), and how easily those nations can be stirred to  extremism and terror.  Obama’s response to the “you don’t say that,” comment was that McCain and the Bush Administration gave N Korea the shaft and would not open dialogue with them.  The difference is, N Korea is an enemy state, not an ally. 

    He also lied when he said that the Republicans expected to be viewed as liberators in Iraq and to find WMD’s while there, and that they turned out to be wrong.  First of all, the US soldiers were viewed as liberators, people did celebrate in the streets, statues of Saddam Hussein were pulled down, etc.  Unfortunately, there was also a great deal of looting and problems with people like Sadr (which seems to be settled now).  As to finding WMD’s, the building materials were certainly there: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

    Moving on, in general I find a lot of the international politics disturbing, either way.  It gives me a sense of despair that the US is getting involved with so many countries.  It seems that Russia is being a problem again, and this time for the purpose of getting control over more oil.  Which is horrible considering how expensive gas prices already are.  I drive a Toyata, which gets good mileage, but it costs me more money to fill up my tank once than it does to buy a box set of any season of any Star Trek series.  Actually depending on where I shop, I could get 2 box sets for the price of one complete fill up for my gas tank.  Normally I would be pleased at the return to a bi-polar international system, because anything that mitigates the development of a world government is good, but I am concerned about the overextension of US troops, and the increasing gas prices.  This situation is a loss regardless of which one of them wins.

    Also, while I suspect that the liberal media will blast McCain for mispronouncing Ahmadinejad, the fact is that they both mispronounced his name.  His name is not Amekdinajad, which was how they both ended up pronouncing it through the debate.  Although I think that most people struggle with his name, I used to struggle with it myself.  One thing everyone should learn in phoenetics is how to sound out new words.  Sometimes you have to break it up: Ah–ma–din–e–jad.  Take it at one syllable at a time if need be. 

    As to Israel, I think McCain has the better policy.  I am a Christian conservative and I have Jewish blood in me so I must support Israel.  The Bible clearly dictates that that land belongs to the Jews, and that those who curse Israel will be cursed.  I wrote a detailed entry on this topic a few years ago and I can rehash it if possible.  Aside from that, the fact of the matter is that Jews have been a persecuted minority almost anywhere they have gone, and on a consistent basis.  The only place where they were welcomed was China during the middle ages.  After the rise of Islam Jews were forbidden from owning land, and persecuted a great deal more.  Many fled the middle east to Europe and Ethiopia, but also China.  The Chinese emperor looked on the Jews with favor, probably because they actually had quite a bit in common in terms of work ethic and the notion of meritocracy, so he gave them a province to live on.  Unfortunately when the Mongols invaded they killed off most of the Jews in China.  My point is, that the Jews need to have their own country, and it needs to be strong.  It needs to be a place where they can flee too and where they can be a majority so that they are not persecuted.  And I can think of no place more proper than their original homeland.  Am yisrael chai…

    Well that seems to be all I have for now, I will endeavor to catch up with many of you all as time allows. 

Comments (22)

  • i dont like the  presdit at the minute i kant  take  to them

    im against war i mean kids kant drink alchoel in america to e over 21 so why do they send kids to war??? meaning under 21

    ohh im  frm the uk just in case u wondered

    any way thats my view

     i dont like our prime minster  either

     kels xx

  • A couple of thoughts. The Jews have been relentlessly persecuted throughout history and I think that since they have set up shop legitimately in Israel as the regions only democracy, we should support them as allies against the insane, murderous Muslims.

    I agree that Obama is indeed frightning; however, there are a few nasty things about McCain you should know about. A friend of mine, Albert Thompson, wrote an essay on McCain’s record, so I’ll just copy and paste what he wrote.

    “McCain does not believe in Constitutional government.

    Three examples:

    1. He voted to confirm Ruth Bader Ginsburg (known at the time as the political director of the ACLU!) to the Supreme Court. He stated that presidents should be able to pick whom they want. (the Senate was created with the explicit power to block people like her.)

    2. He favors the federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. (Congress can spend money on many things but I assure you that is not in the Constitution.)

    3. He believes the Federal government should regulate private business to support efforts to combat climate change. http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/da151a1c-733a-4dc1-9cd3-f9ca5caba1de.htm (This goes totally beyond Congress’s authority over international and interstate commerce, and threatens to violate and destroy private property and state laws regulating their own business interests. Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.)

    McCain does not believe in Unalienable Rights or the Bill of Rights.

    Three examples:

    1. He created McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance “Reform” which not only blocks campaign donations but legally bars the People from running political adds the closer it gets to election day. I take into consideration that the TV news and entertainment networks are Marxist liberals so this law does not in anyway impair their ability to say what they want on the air. It does Unconstitutionally prevent the NRA for example from purchasing air time to respond to 24/7 liberal propaganda.

    2. If you remember the Gang of 14 that blocked Bush’s Pro Life nominees to the lower courts, you should not forget he was head of the Gang. Even before that he told the San Francisco Chronicle back in 1999 that he opposed overturning Roe v Wade. (His wife recently echoed that belief in a television slip up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRx0J7tz-zQ) No matter what you think of abortion, Roe v Wade was not Constitutional in any way.

    3. In the 108th Congress he authored an amendment to S. 1805, that would if implemented threaten to IMPRISON members of organizations sponsoring gun shows for failure to notify every “person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law].”

    By the way unrelated to S. 1805 Gun Owners of America gave him a grade of F for 2006.

    McCain does not believe in National Sovereignty or the Sovereignty of the People

    Three examples:

    1. He still supports amnesty. In fact he is currently appealing to SPANISH speaking people to vote for him because “Obama and his congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead. “sic. If this a good thing why not run the ad nationwide in English? http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75933

    2. Just this spring met with and pandered to La Raza (meaning The Race) the anti-American, Hispanic supremacy group that wants the Southwest to become a Hispanic only nation. (On a side note I think conservatives would have fit if someone Obama just knew spoke to a black group called The Race. Imagine if say a white American group was spoken to by Bush call The Race. Surely I am not the only one who is disgusted with this?) http://tancredo.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1372

    3. Finally he believes illegals should be given a chance to become citizens. Now a person may compromise and say that perhaps, maybe, in some cases a few might be forgiven for invading the country and be allowed to be permanent residents but why should they become citizens. Why should they have to. If they wanted to become citizens they would have come in legally. It is illogical to suggest that an illegal entry leads to citizenship. In fact it forces the People to share their nation with people who chose of their own free will to defy the Constitution. Defy the Constitution? Article 1 Section 8 is explicit that Congress shall have power to: “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,”. That means that he wants one of the few Constitutional laws Congress makes these days to benefit individuals who chose to brake American law. You don’t invade America on accident. It was a clear choice.

    I could provide other evidence of violating Sovereignty other than immigration issues, and may add to this if requested.

    And for good measure he does not believe in Tax Cuts.

    Three examples:

    1. “I don’t think the governor’s tax cut is too big — it’s just misplaced. Sixty percent of the benefits from his tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10% of Americans — and that’s not the kind of tax relief that Americans need…. Gov. Bush wants to spend the entire surplus on tax cuts. I don’t believe the wealthiest 10% of Americans should get 60% of the tax breaks. I think the lowest 10% should get the breaks….”I’m not giving tax cuts for the rich.”
    Discussion with media, reported in “Bush, McCain Snip Over Tax Cut Plans,” Los Angeles Times, and “GOP Rivals Bicker on Taxes,” Washington Post, Jan. 5, 2000.

    2. This one is worthy of John Kerry but alas this is McCain: “I have never engaged in class warfare. I am very much in favor of tax cuts for middle-income and lower-income Americans. I’m deeply concerned about a kind of class warfare that’s going on right now. It’s unfortunate. There’s a growing gap between the haves and have-nots in America, and that gap is growing, and it’s unfortunately divided up along ethnic lines. ….I feel very strongly that we ought to have middle-income and lower-income tax cuts, and we’ll be getting into it, I’m sure, later on in this program. Mine are basically comparable to Gov. Bush’s, in some cases far better. But I’m not sure we need to give two-thirds of that tax cut, of that money, to the wealthiest 10% of America.” (Sounds like class warfare to me.)

    – Michigan Republican Debate, Jan. 11, 2000.
    http://www.gunowners.org/mctax.htm

    3. He voted against the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and did not miss a chance to do it again in 2003.”

    That said, I don’t fault you for voting for McCain. All the choices this year are bad.

  • They both suck, but Obama sucks worse.

    Obama will be a liberal dictator that will destroy the Republic beyond any chance of restoration.

  • @desertvet - 

    I tend to agree. The only way anything good could come out of Obama getting elected is if some of the states decided to secede.

  • @St_Faustus - 

    That is very discouraging.

  • @kellyrobinson98 - 

    That would be a cogent point, except that the army is made up of volunteers, we no longer have a draft. Which means that everyone who signs up knows what they are signing up for, and they know the risks when they sign up.

  • Just a view quick bullet points:

    - Oral sex isn’t sex. I didn’t realize that THIS was one of the things that upset the conservatives. Thats just purely the definition of the word. Its like saying “oh, racial profiling ISN’T segregation”…well no, it isn’t, they may have similar key factors but they certainly aren’t the same thing.

    - A neo-con isn’t a liberal republican, lol, its an uberconservative meshed with the Wolfowitz doctrine, apathy, and jingoism. They’re opposites. A liberal republican would be a liberal under a false title.

    - When Obama said “give money”, I believe he meant redistribute tax money into CEO’s paychecks of government run companies. For example, “giving the rich money” can be evidenced in the severence checks of the CEO’s of AIG, Fredie May, Fannie Mac, etc.. It’s not stolen tax money from the rich, its stolen tax money from the middle class.

    - When McCain said “you don’t say that” he was indictating that such invasions were usually covert and operated out of the publics’ eye (The Shah, supporting the Contras, Sandistas, Bautista, Hasai Mubarak, Pervez Musharaff, General Suharto, etc., etc., etc.).

    - If the untermensch must have land, why not give them a portion of Germany? I’m sure they’d be a nice addition to the Rhineland, or anywhere else in the Laubstrum for that matter. Israelis are very angry and aggressive creatures- so are Germans. It would be a nice balance.

  • @jmsnooks - Man I am telling you, I am hearing that more and more.  I reenact the first Civil War as a hobby, and the conflict itself is a particular passion of mine.

    I told a friend earlier this week that I thought I could finally relate to how people in the South must have felt as they began to perceive the momentum of Lincoln. 

    The only thing is that this time we’ve got a guy that wants to fundamentally change the character and structure of this nation.

    We live in interesting times and I feel that no matter what happens, the next ten years will determine whether or not this country remains a Constitutional Republic.

  • @jmsnooks - 

    @jmsnooks -  i still thionk thart  peeps   iunder 21 shouldent be allowed to join up and all

      i know that i wouldent let my child go to war

    but thats my view thats not sayen i dont repect  the troops as i do and  i pray  for them

    but so many innocent lives are  cut short

     k

  • The Bible clearly dictates that the Jews broke covenant and were therefore removed from ownership of the Promised Land until the Messiah leads them back to it.

    You call yourself a conservative Christian? No Christian on Earth would’ve ever even considered letting the Jews regain the Holy Land before the 20th century. Guess centuries of Christians just couldn’t read their Bible correctly.

  • @Daveyh8 - 

    May be after centuries of persecuting the Jews, Christians felt bad and decided to lay off them for a change.

  • Obama, in the debate did mention, did mention what the tax credit line is. He said if you make less 250,000 dollars a year, you would get a tax break.

    _Anthony_

  • See Snooks, Davey realizes that the Zionists aren’t Torah Jews as well. Seems like a growing enlightenment to me…

    And St. Faustus, it would be humorous (but also extremely depressing) if the Christians DID decide not to “persecute” Jews anymore, but instead move on to Arabs. :( .

  • @Complete_loser - 

    Allright, that must have occurred in the portion I missed. All the same, I still think it would be better to abolish the IRS, or at least cut taxes to everyone. I still have a problem with him because my dad falls into that bracket and I do not wish for his taxes to be raised, especially since I’m living with my parents for the time being.

  • @Meanking14 - 

    For the most part, I think that Muslims are more likely to persecute the reset of us than the reverse. Take a look at Britain. The government has been persuaded to give Islamic courts, which openly discriminate against women, the full backing of British law. Like some members of the religious right, the Muslims want theocracy.

  • Debate is to politicians, what WCW is to pro-wrestlers.

  • Have you accepted Jesus into your heart yet? Did you know Jesus loved you so much. He died on a cross for your sins, Rose from the Dead, Ascened into heaven to make intercession for you? Just like He said? Do you know Jesus is about to call the Church home with him, According to Prophecies that have been fulfilled 100% so far; and you could be left behind to face The Great Tribulation Period that is not far off? Just a few Questions before He Gets HERE!  Bro Cliff Stafford

  • @Meanking14 - 

    It seems I finally have a brief window in time in which I can provide some answers. I agree with him that oral sex is not sex, I just wanted to give him a disparaging nickname. I was going to call him Billy ‘I didn’t have sex I just let her blow me’ Clinton, but I thought that might be too graphic for some of my readers, and it was kind of long. If Obama wins I will probably call him Barack ‘Allah is greater’ Obama. A neo-con is not ultra conservative. I am ultra conservative, Ron Paul is ultra conservative. A neo-con is someone who tries to style themselves as conservative yet believes in and/or facilitates an activist government. The left side of the spectrum is all about government activism and control, and a neo-con leans that way, so for a “conservative” they are actually rather liberal.

    No, he was clearly referring to tax cuts to the wealthy as giving them money. I can probably find a transcript of the debate online if necessary.

    Agreed, he probably meant that even if you are planning a move like that you don’t spew it outloud, you talk about it in the war room or whatever. Chances are people in Pakistan will be on the edge of their seats for this election.

    Give them land in Germany? Surrounded by the people who just tried to wipe them out? Just out of curiosity have you ever heard of the Jewish Pale? There was actually a new homeland created for the Jews in the eastern part of Poland prior to the first world war. It suffices to say that it is not there anymore, but it serves to demonstrate how Europe is no more of a good place to establish a Jewish homeland than it would be to establish a Gypsy homeland. Actually the Gypsies originate from India, and the Jews originate from the Middle East, and now inhabit their ancestral homeland. As to who is more aggressive, one need only look at a demographic map of Eurasia and Africa, and compare the size of Islam vs. the size of Jewish territory, and look at which is more expansive and which engages more in violent conflicts. All along the edges of Islamic territory there are conflicts, including with Israel. I think it is jumping the gun a bit to blame those conflicts on the Jews.

  • @Meanking14 - 

    Just because he holds a position does not automatically make that position correct. He also wishes to establish a Catholic theocracy. Does that also sound like the correct thing to do?

  • @desertvet - 

    Although there are many aspects of southern culture, or perhaps just redneck culture, which I find distasteful, I have actually come to appreciate some of the ideological aspects of the Confederacy. While I remain disgusted by the slavery and the racism, I can find no fault with the doctrine of secession, on principle. The central tenet of representative government is that the government actually represents the needs and wishes of the majority, and that they govern with the consent of the governed. The South did not vote for Abraham Lincoln, and they did not want him, so they chose to go their separate way. Granted, Lincoln did end slavery, but during his campaign and even during the onset of the war he promised not too. In fact, he said that if the price of maintaining the union was to also maintain slavery then he would choose to maintain slavery. I do not see the advantage of forcing together people in a “union” which large numbers of the people in question do not wish to be a part of. If Barack allah is greater Obama wins and the majority of people in Texas (for example) do not want him, then Texas ought to be able to secede.

  • @Now_Into_The_Word - 

    Thanks, I actually have but perhaps your comment was not specifically directed at me. However, I do not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, and eventually, I will write an entry explaining precisely why. When I do, then you are welcome to contribute your thoughts.

  • @jmsnooks - Thanks I would be glad to.  Bro. Cliff

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