April 15, 2013
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Terrorist Attack in Boston
So the terrorists have hit Boston.
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/two-explosions-boston-marathon-finish-line-190259876–spt.html
This is most likely the work of Muslims. Yes I know that the left wants to assume that white Christian gun owning patriotic male sexists were involved, but this is real life. It is going to be Muslims. Let me spell it out for anyone to whom it may not yet be clear.
YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS WITH ISLAM. This is how Muslims are. They have no loyalty to anything but Mecca. It doesn’t matter if you take them in, give them free education, welfare, special treatment, suck up to them, or flatter them. At he end of the day you are still a dirty infidel who needs to either convert or die.
What do you expect from people who conceptualize the world in terms of “the abode of Islam” and “the abode of war”? Guess what the abode of war is? It is every place dominated by infidels. Guess why they call it the abode of war? Because they are supposed to make war on us. They believe that they will be rewarded in the next life for killing infidels.
I know you liberals think Islam is one of the greatest things since jam, and you take them for a natural ally against the evil right wing white male, but it’s worth noting where the bombs went off. They went off in your own neighborhood. Why? Because even though you pity the Muslims, and welcome them, and feel a connection to them, they still hate you because you are not one of them. Both conservatives and liberals are infidels, but conservatives are smarter infidels than liberals. When it comes to frags, the Muslims care more about quantity than quality. The more infidels they kill the greater the reward, doesn’t matter if they kill dumb infidels who feel sorry for them. It’s worth noting that they didn’t go to a rural or suburban area to kill the evil white Christian conservatives, they blew those bombs up in the city because they could kill more people that way. End of story. Wake up already.
I really hope that this leads to a saner immigration policy on immigration, and especially Islamic immigration, but I don’t think it will.
Comments (25)
This has to be Christian white people. Who the hell else other than white people go to marathons?
Terrorist? That’s any garden variety teenager in my book!
@ShimmerBodyCream - Haha. They must have found something in one of the Dead Sea Scrolls instructing them to terrorize their own country. Some hidden text that was previously forgotten, but which promises rewards in Heaven for killing your own people.
@ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove - Oh right! Some kid was just mad at his parents. “I’m grounded? I’ll show you. ALLAH WACKBAR!!” Oh wait…
i’m almost sure it’s a white person…i dont know why..just a gut feeling..we’ll see…
@locomotiv - I’m sure if it’s a white guy his face and identity will be plastered all over the news. If it’s a Muslim… we’ll see…
Yet another inside job like Sandy Hook, 9/11, OK City, etc. etc.
Religion in general is dangerous, Islam included, but that’s beside the point. This was the work of the American government, like all the other things I listed.
I’m curious to know why you hate muslims so much?
@secretbeerreporter - I haven’t ruled that out as a possibility. We’ll have to see, but this is how Muslims act. This kind of stuff happens in India all the time.
@fatchamilksnatcha - Have you ever read the Qur’an? Scary book it is.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Oh I know it is, given that their holy book explicitly orders them to ruthlessly kill everyone who dares oppose their “god.” I can’t say as though I’m surprised they pull crap like this in India and in other parts of the world.
@fatchamilksnatcha - I hate their religion and what it has done to the world. One reason is the acid burnings and the way they treat women in general: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vVe0ywEO-A
Another reason is the way they treat religious and ethnic minorities.
Another reason is because Islam has destroyed so many civilizations.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -
All true, but just as a sense-check: substitute the word “Christianity” for Islam in your comment, and read it again to see if it is any less true.
@secretbeerreporter - Setting off exlosions in crowded places is pretty normal when Muslims compose a significant minority but are still not quit the majority. It happens in Israel as well. Actually one of the cities I visited in India was bombed a few months ago (After I left). Originally they were trying to target some Hindu temple on a major Hindu holiday so that they could slaughter as many people as they could, but a major politician or something was going there, and he brought a lot of security. So instead they decided to just set the bombs in a crowded area nearby. The city was Hyderabad BTW. The way the Muslims in Hyderabad dressed and acted contrasted starkly with the way the Indians did. You would see Indian women in their brightly colored dresses and gold jewelry, and then nearby you would see a Muslim woman dressed in the burka, like a sinister black shadow of death. Same for the men. They don’t wear Indian or western style clothing. They all have beards and hats, vests and baggy pants, like Bedouins that got lost. They deliberately try to separate themselves from the native people, and walk around like they own the place. No Muslim can be a patriot or loyal to any infidel nation. When they pray to Allah they face Mecca, and they turn their bums toward whatever country they are in. This pretty much sums up the condition of the Muslim.
@fatchamilksnatcha - It is less true by orders of magnitude.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -
I am minded of the remark of Lord Beaverbrook, who asked a lady if she would spend the evening with him for a million pounds. She assented. He then asked her if she would sleep with him for a shilling.”Why Lord Beaverbrook!” she exclaimed, “What kind of woman do you think I am?”
“We’ve already established that,” retorted Beaverbrook. “Now we’re just haggling over the price.”
If the evils of Islam differ only from those of Christianity by ‘orders of magnitude’, as you say, then I’m afraid you’re only haggling over the price.
@fatchamilksnatcha - In that case I will rephrase, there is a huge wopping difference and you (should) know it. For example, I don’t throw acid on women’s faces for rejecting me (if I did then I would have been in jail a hundred times over by now). On the one hand you have a religion which is geared toward physical conquest and subjugation of the entire world, on the other hand you have a religion which requires you to put others first. In any event the holy texts for both religions are there. You can read both and draw your own conclusions regarding what they call for, methods of propogation, treatment of others, etc.
Of course I don’t accuse you personally of those things: it’s clear to me you’re a very good-natured and reasonable bloke. It is the collective behaviour of the two religions, over the last thousand or so years, that I have difficulty in distinguishing qualitatively.
The Qu’ran starts off slowly and peacefully (the “Cow” chapter, for example…) and only towards the end degenerates into fully fledged foaming at the mouth. I can only assume Mohammed’s butter slipped off his noodles in his later years.
The Bible, on the other hand (or whatever collection of old Hebrew and Aramaic texts may be arbitrarily and editorially included in the biblical canon), seems to be sporadically nasty from the get go. Fire; brimstone; human sacrifices; plagues; famines.
In the end, the proof of the pudding is how the respective followers interpret and implement the ‘teachings’. I’d say neither group has exactly covered themselves with glory there…
@fatchamilksnatcha - Well then allow me to clarify things for you. Where would you feel safer, in a country that is majority Christian or a country which is majority Islamic? It should be a simple enough choice. If you are female than an Islamic country is the last place on Earth you want to be, with the possible exception of Congo or other countries where you might be adversely affected by racial tnsions.
That being said, you can find out how Christians are supposed to behave based on the Bible, and how Muslims are supposed to behave based on the Koran. For example, if I marry 4 women simultaneously and beat them whenever they upset me then I would be in-line with the Koran, but not the Bible. If I am a Muslim doing that, then the basis for that behavior is probably my religion. If I am a non-Muslim doing that, then the basis for my behavior would be something other than the religion. If you want to blame any particular religion for the behavior of people who self identify as belonging to that group (or not), then you have to find some basis for that behavior in the religion. If there is no mandate for that behavior then there is no valid basis for connecting the two.
So let’s talk about the last 1000 years. No doubt you are associating the brutality of the Medieval Catholic church with Christianity, which is fair on the surface given a lack of knowledge, but, the behavior they engaged in was not Biblically mandated, and in fact it clashed. What you actually had was a lot of people who didn’t know how to read, following orders based on extra-Biblical declarations. That being said, the Catholic church at it’s worst still doesn’t hold a candle to Islam. During the Middle Ages Muslims were invading Europe, not the other way around. Since they took the Middle East they have been invading and pushing against the boundaries of Europe almost non-stop. They invaded both eastern and western Europe, attacking the Balkans in the East, and Spain in the west. They weren’t invited in, they invaded. The Crusades were actually a countrstrike which occured as a result of a letter the Byzantine Emperor wrote to the Pope asking for military aid because the Muslims would not stop attacking him.
Today Muslims are still invading Europe. First of all, the Turks never backed out of Constantinople, they still occupy and rule part of the Balkans, which is a part of Europe that has a good deal of cultural and historic value to us. It also has a good deal of religious significance for those who adhere to Eastern Orthodoxy. The invasion of Europe continues in the form of mass immigration. European women have maybe about 1 child per woman on average, which isn’t even enough to maintain population equilibrium, while Muslims flood in and have 4 to 10 kids. I think the average child per Muslim woman was 8, but I am uncertain. It is a very serious threat which cannot simply be overlooked.
Judging by your icon and your manner of speaking I would venture to guess that you are English. I always feel sorry for Patriotic English people who live their country, because you guys have been betrayed by your own government and have to watch as your country is destroyed. You don’t even have the proper freedom to speak out. I do not however feel sorry for left wing English people, who buy into and push the PC agenda, for the same reason that I don’t feel sorry for cutters or people who commit suicide. I never feel pity for anyone’s self inflicted wounds.
Anyways, I wanted to say some other things but can’t remember now, so we can talk more later.
sorry, I’m in my own head. no relation to topic. did you want your blog cited as a reference source on my main website? I’ve gotta do this fast. The stupid business end finally all came together.
and as far as boston, my guess is that it was niether muslim nor white christian sexists lol. I’m betting on just plain old accident. A pipe leak or massive gas expolsion, something of that nature. sometimes its not a religous war
I sincerely appreciate the valuable time and valuable
thought you have given to this dialogue, when you might easily have written me
off as a waste of breath. Thank you.
I must first disabuse you of the idea that I am English. I
don’t know what gave that disagreeable impression, but I am in fact Scottish.
I’m puzzled, though, by your remark about the English not having ‘freedom to
speak out’. We observe them with some interest from up here in Scotland, and
I’ve never seen anything to suggest gagging of dissent. Quite the contrary.
Vocal and conspicuous opposition to almost anything seems to be an automatic
knee-jerk among the Sassonach. Indeed, in contrast to this, my travels in USA
have given me much greater cause for concern in this regard. The European traveller
in USA is somewhat spooked by the relative homogeneity of voiced opinion there.
Only very sparse and selectively edited information is available on your world
news services. The hymn sheet seems to be written for you, and you all sing
from it in unison. The need for consensus seems to be a strong social pressure.
Nothing like North Korea, of course, but certainly moreso than in Europe.
You make a very compelling point about blaming a religion
for the behaviour of its followers. I take the point: there is a temptation to
pursue the syllogistic fallacy of doing that, particularly when it concerns the
other guys.
If Fred is a Christian, and Fred molests a cat, I agree the
general statement does not follow that ‘Christians molest cats’, since his
actions were not derived from or attributed to his religion.
However, I think it is a different matter if Fred molests
the cat in the name of Christ. Say he does it wearing a tunic with a cross on
it, while reciting Hail Mary, and believes himself to be executing God’s will.
Then, one would have to say that his religion was a factor, and if the practice
were widespread, it would be fair to make generalisations about Christians
molesting cats.
You may say, of course, that Fred is mistaken or obtuse in
his interpretation of God’s will: that he is not truly practising Christianity,
but merely acting in the NAME of Christianity. My position would be that, since
I have no reason to credit of God’s message in any particular text, the NAME is
all there is to Christianity. So Christianity is as Christianity does: the
crusades, you mentioned. We must also consider the fascist movements of Poland, Spain, Portugal,
France, Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and
Romania, all of whom marched under the banner of Christianity. We must look as
the systematic sexual abuse of children by Christian clergy the world over, on
a massive scale, and the institutional involvement of Church in the
perpetration of those crimes, as well as in the cover-up. We must look at the
Spanish conquistadors’ mass extermination of the American natives, under the
banner of Christ. The sectarian violence in Ireland. The persecution of the Huguenots. The Inquisition. The Ivory Coast slave trade, masquerading as Christian mission. The Serbian genocide of the Bosnians. The ethnic cleansing of “heathen” Australian aborigines. The Clearances of Orsay, Uist, and Harris… a never-ending list of
atrocity, yet to be culminated.
Just last week, in the Sinai desert not too far from the Suez canal, I talked with a
group of US soldiers at a cafe, there under the auspices of NATO. All four of
them had embroidered badges velcro’d to their jacket breasts, depicting a
knight with a crucifix on his chest, and holding up a piece of meat. The caption
read: “PORK EATING CRUSADER”. I asked them if they were winning hearts and minds in Egypt. They responded that they just wanted to fuck them all and kill them all, not necessarily in that order. So forgive me for saying so, but for me and
most of what you Americans dismiss as “Rest Of World”, Christianity does not
appear entirely wholesome.
Islam certainly also has its proponents of evil, which I also abhor. To what extent those people are
representative of the whole, I am not certain. But it does seem to me that you
are applying a different standard to them that you are to your own zealots.
@fatchamilksnatcha - OK my bad. Actually it was your manner of speaking and icon that threw me off. It didn’t occur to me that similiar colliqualisms (spelling?) might be used in Scotland.
As for the US, you’re preaching to the choir when it comes to he media. Our media is heavily left wing, and many of us recognize that. There is growing discontent with the news media here. As for homogeneity of opinion, I would rather say it’s dicotomous. While political views may be fairly similar within a state or region, there is a stark contrast between different regions. The views people have in New York are quite different than what they have in Texas or Georgia. The country is dichotomous. I live in Georgia, and I have about as much in common with the average person in California as Indians do with Pakis.
I still don’t think you understand. If Fred molests the cat in the name of Christ that still makes him delusional (best case scenarior), or a loony. In order for a behavior to be Biblical it has to be derived from the Bible. Similarly, if I’m assembling a bike, and I start driving nails through the tires, nails which in fact came from a different kit, then is the manual that came with the bike to blame? No. Even if I say that I believe in the manual and am following it as I drive nails through the bike, then that just makes me either a liar or severely delusional. Odds are I haven’t read the manual, or I have read it and chosen to do my own thing in any cae. The manual is not to blame, nor are the people who wrote it. It doesn’t matter if someone believes in “God.” There are lots of different God concepts out there. The source of cannon for proper Christianity is the Bible, not a church declaration, or a priest, pope, or pastor. I was raised in the Assembly of God church, which has lots of spiritual people as well as faux spiritual people. I don’t always know how to tell the difference, so I tend to be suspect of anyone who claims they have actually heard from God. Maybe some of them have, but I can’t know that they have. However, if they say something that doesn’t line up with the scripture then I can know that they are lying or delusional, because that is how we judge propriety and correctness.
You have to keep the medieval Catholic church in proper perspective. They started getting brutal after the fall of the western Roman Empire. The reason they started getting brutal was not because they were following the Bible, but because they were attempting to fill the role that was once filled by the Emperor. Some of their trappings and styles are supposedly based on Imperial styles and ceremonies. They were also trying to be the main scientific, literary, and educational institution. Why? Because they were the only institution that was able to survive the barbaric invasion. To expand their influence they compromised with paganism, adopting pagan rituals and ideas in order to incorporate more people into the fold. To a certain extent they succeeded, and provided western Europe with a shared cultural identity and authority structure, although the methods they used were not always good, nor were all of their teachings correct. They relied a good deal on human authority and force.
Now as for Islam, no it is much worse. The reason I am so hard on Islam is because the majority of their lulu behavior is mandated by the Koran. The practicing/correct Muslim is the violent and crazy Muslim. People need to realize that.
As for the fascism… I don’t live in Europe, but I saw evidence of fascist activity when I was in Spain. By that I mean swastica being spraypainted here and there on occasion. I could be wrong, but my understanding is that most of the fascism in Europe is “National Socialism” which was inspired by Hitler. I used to argue with national socialists overseas when I was younger, and my experience was that they were mostly evolutionists, and many of them were overtly hostile towards Christianity. Either because of it’s semitic origins, or because they are hostile to “religion” in general.
My understandng is that the fascism in Europe is largely a reaction to the multiculturalism, and while I do not blame them for hating and reacting to multicultralism, I do fault them for attempting to counter with an ideology that is equally anti-human and oppressive. In the US it’s different, most of our white supremacists are dumb rednecks.
Ah yes, I almost forgot. The reason I say they don’t have freedom of speech in England is because they don’t. All you have to do is go into yahoo or google and type “Arrested for racism in England” and all kinds of things will come up. There was one guy who got arrested for singing “Everyone Loves Kung Fu Fighting.” I don’t care how hurtful it is to someone’s feelings, you don’t arrest someone for speaking their mind or goofing off. Now it’s one thing if someone is making threats, but aside from that no one should be seized by the state for expressing themselves.
@Amandascowen - Oh yes, I forgot about that. Can you send me a link to your website so I can check it out?
Once again, thanks.
I do see where you are coming from now, after this last elaboration. I suppose my problem with the ‘Christians’ I cite is with their behaviour as a group, not with the ideology they claim to follow but often don’t. But you’re right, I don’t have anything against the manual itself.
I also now see what you are getting at about the freedom of speech in England. There has indeed been a rash of excessive political correctness there, and there are indeed things one cannot say without recrimination from some quarters, and this is certainly a bad thing.
The Nazis differed from the fascist movements in the other countries I mentioned in one respect: the Nazis were generally anti-religion, whereas the others were fanatical Christians who wanted to exterminate followers of other religions, other races, homosexuals, and cripples. Again, not really ‘real’ Christians by your reading of the term: following the Bible.
The question is, how many ‘real’ Christians, and how many ‘real’ Muslims, actually are there?
@fatchamilksnatcha - No problem, I also don’t think highly of a lot of people who self identify as Christians.
So let me ask you a question. Are conditions different in Scotland than England? Last time I checked you guys were both under the same governing body. I always rather hoped Scotland would break free, but I don’t know how possible that is these days. I do hear horrible things about England all the time, but I never hear anything about Scotland.
Good question. Normally I don’t try to assess people on an individual basis unless things are blatantly obvious, because mostly Christianity deals with what’s going on inside a person, and normally you just don’t know. Also, I’m not the best most shining example that there is. But if you want to get a general idea, I would say church attendence is a good place to start. I THINK that church attendence in the US is about 30 or 40%, while church attendence for most of Europe is around 1 or 2%. Barring a shortage of churches or transportation issues there is no reason not to attend. Of course you could make an argument for personal safety, like holding services in an Islamic country, but the Bible doesn’t recognize personal safety as an impedement to fellowship, worship, sharing, etc. It’s not like Islam where it’s OK to deny your religion if you need to protect yourself from unbelievers. That being said, not all churches are good or have correct teachings (like the gay churches and various cult groups), and not everyone who attends church does so for spiritual or religious reasons. In the US there are actually atheists who attend church because they like the music and the fellowship.
As for defining proper Islam, I once talked to a Saudi girl who told me that if anyone does not believe all of the Koran then they are not a true Muslim. Secular Muslims I tend to not view as Muslims because they pick and choose what parts they want to believe, which to me indicates that they don’t really believe any of it and that the Muslim identity is more of a cultural thing for them. I would say that Saudi’s and Muslim Egyptians are true Muslims for the most part. I would say that Iranians are not true Muslims for hte most part. A lot of Iranians are sick to death of the depredations and cultural supression that has been heaped upon them by their government, so many of them are secular, and many of them are open to converting to Christianity (based on what I have been told).
But when it comes to immigration policies, I am very much against allowing anyone in who self identifies as Muslim to immigrate to western countries. I find it very difficult to trust them, and that distrust is borne out by their actions. We had a Muslim officer in the army. They guy was a major, and he rolled a live hand grenade into a tent of fellow soldiers. I believe he is still on trial for that crap. There have been a few other incidents as well. Of course we don’t have the same kind of problem that England does, yet. You can see what they are doing to England. Did you hear about the acid burning that happened in England?
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - sure, You know considering I comment back and forth with you sparatically all this time, it’s sort of sad I forgot about you at the end. if you have any suggestons as resources to add I’d love to have the advice.There’s some civl ‘support’ group for stay at home husbands that I came by which amused me but I don’t know if I want to promote men being dead beat dads.
http://www.CNWFeminist.com