March 29, 2013
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Immigration Insanity
So I recently wrote an entry asking for feedback on immigration (specifically the issue of amnesty for illegals) from liberals, and I tagged a few. Some of the responses I actually agreed with, but there were some that were exactly what I expected:
1) Appeals to emotion/sympathy, which not only failed to engage my sympathy but were also irrelevant given that we were dealing with matters of legality and economics.
2) Faulty analogies, such as repeatedly trying to present urelated items as being parallel or equal.
I’m not going to say who exactly those individuals were, because I find it distasteful and disrespectful to write entries about fellow users. But I am going to address the issues because, unfortunately, those views are disturbingly pervasive.
That being said, let’s get down to it.
There is a reason why we have borders. National borders are not unnatural lines that were arbitrarily drawn by mean or racist people, in general. In SOME cases there are borders which were questionable, such as some of the different countries in the ME and Africa. Straight lines on a map could be indicative of an arbitrary decision, or they could be indicative of a compromise or agreement between two or more different factions. But putting that aside, the reason we have borders because the people living on either side of the border belong to differnent people groups. Sometimes it might be a racial divison (as is the case with China and India), or it could be a cultural, religious, or linguistic difference. It could even be all of the above.
There is a squiggly line that runs between China and North Korea. The reason that line exists is because on one side there are Korean people, and on the other side there are Chinese people. The Chinese want to be ruled by Chinese people, and the Koreans want to be ruled by Korean people. Since both China and NK are communist hellholes, they could have opted for one government due to politcal similarities, but they didn’t. Why? Because there are cultural differences between the two of them. I think that should be simple enough for anyone to understand.
The reason why we have different countries for different people groups is so that those people groups can engage in self rule, which is a human right. Different people groups have the right to determine their own culture and make their own laws, which includes determining who they let in, and how many they let in. If country X decides to let in citizens from country Y, then that is their prerogative. If country X does not wish to let in citizens of country Y, but the Y people come anyways, then that is an invasion.
Now, back to the situation of illegal immigrants coming into the US. The fact that they broke the law by entering does not justify their presence here. The fact that some businesses want to hire them to buck minimm wage does not justify their presence here. The fact that they have been living here for some time does not justify their presence here. The fact that they had children here does not justify their presence here. The fact that lots of them want to come and stay here does not justify their presence here. The fact that the country from which they fled is a hellhole does not justify their presence here. Why? Because none of that has any bearing on whether they are legally entitled to be here, or any bearing on whether or not their presence here is good for our economy and culture.
As I have stated many times, giving these people citizenship or allowing them to stay incentivises that behavior, which means more illegals. It is also unfair to all of the lawful immigrants and potential immigrant going through the proper legal channels. It’s like a guy at a grocery store checkout line cutting in front of everyone and being checked out in spite of the fact that some people have been waiting fo 20 minutes. No he doesn’t get to be checked out first, he needs to move his sorry behind to the back of the line. It’s too bloody bad if he’s in a hurry or whatever, he should have planned better, and he doesn’t have the right to supercede the rights of others just because his circumstances might be less than ideal. No sympathy for law breakers, or those who demand special treatment for bad behavior.
It does not matter what a craphole Mexico, or whatever other backwards 3rd world dump, the alien comes from. None of that gives them a right to be in our country against our consent. Just because you want something, or what someone else has is better than what you have, does not make you entitled to a piece of their pie. OK Bill Gates has a lot, and I hardly have anything, so he should let me move in with him and give me 3 cars and a theater sized flat screen TV because I don’t have those things. My life is so rough compared with his, so he is obligated to make my life better right? Wrong. No one is obligated to give someone else their stuff. Economic disparities exist largely because of intellectual and ethical disparities.
Government cannot act as charity, because government does not generate wealth, or glean wealth from donations. No, printing money does not generate wealth. Everything the government has is gained through appropriation by force. Don’t believe me? Don’t pay your taxes an see what happens. Just send the IRS a note saying that you don’t feel like giving them any more money so you aren’t going too. My point is that one cannot be charitable with someone else’s belongings. IF government has to exist, then they need to stick to the bare minimum when it comes to their range of powers, activities, and expenditures, and the should not be wantonly giving away money in exchange for votes, or nothing. Neither should they be giving their kids lavish vacations at tax payer expense.
Yes I know it is hard for people to come here legally, and yes I know there are lots of Mexicans and other 3rd worlders who want to come, but that does not give them the right to come, nor does it mean that it is good for us to have them here. In fact, there are some very good reasons why it is difficult for 3rd worlders to come here legally.
Most of the 3rd worlders coming here are unskilled/uneducated workers. Now I have seen Mexicans (probably illegal and anchor babies), saying that they have a RIGHT to be here and that they work. Some insist quite vehemntly that they have a right to be here on those grounds. Many insist that they are Native Americans and that they are taking back their land, but let’s examine the validity of those claims.
Whether or not Americans are lazy is irrelevant. If we were so lazy, as a people, then why is our country so much better than theirs? Some Americans are lazy, and others are kept from working because employers choose to hire illegals so they can avoid minimum wage requirements. The fact is, we don’t need a Mexican or 3rd world work force, because we already have a large domestic workforce which already has a difficult time finding work. If we cut welfare then those who are lazy will be forced to work the low paying jobs anyways, and if we penalize those who hire illegals and deport he illegals when they are found then more jobs will open up for Americans. So to say that we need them is utter bollox. The only thing we need from them is for them to scamper back across the border and take their children with them.
“Oh that’s racist!”
No, it’s pragmatic. Pragmatism is not racist, it’s cold and logical. PC sensitivity ignores reality and logic, and unjustly attempts to stigmatize rational thought. Facts are not racist or bigoted, they are axiomatic, and ignoring them are calling them derisive terms does not change the reality of their existence.
Bringing in a flood of unskilled workers during an economic downturn does not do anything to help the economy recover, especially if the people you bring in have a propensity to drain the systm.
Also, the claim that the majority of them are hard workers is not borne out by reality. 57% of them are on welfare: http://www.examiner.com/article/fifty-seven-percent-of-mexican-immigrants-on-welfare
As for the Mexicans being Native Americans, yes it is true that they are mostly the natives of Central America, but that’s Central America, and they already have their own country there, which does not automatically grant them a right to be here no matte what La Raza says.
Now when it comes from immigration from any part of the world, what we need is quality control. We don’t need any unskilled or uneducated workers. We have more than enough domestically. If we don’t want our culture, standard of living, and way of life destroyed, then we need to limit who comes in. Most of the people in 3rd world countries, and this goes for any 3rd world country, are not very smart. Don’t believe me? Do a quick search on yahoo or google for “world IQ map.” The reason why 3rd world countries are such a mess is because the people who live there made them that way. No you don’t get to blame white people and Jews for that, the people who run those countries bear the blame. The people who elect and worship despotic leaders bear the blame. Poor judgment and ignorance are rampant, but it is poor judgment that exacerbates and perpetuates the ignorance. Now whether the lack of intelligence and good judgment is due to cultural or genetic factors is a different issue, but the fact is that it exists.
I’m not saying that everyone from the 3rd world is stupid and that there is just nothing that can be done about it, in fact there are many smart people in the 3rd world which we would benefit from having in our country. But there is no benefit in bringing in droves of ignorant village people.
Look at Mexico. Before any white people went there Central America was run by despotic empires who engaged in human sacrifice and forced labor. When the Spanish came the Mexicans had no idea what they were, but they just sided with them because they were sick to death of human sacrifice and slavery. Unfortunately the just ended up exchanging one set of despots for another, although the Spanish were relatively benign compared with the Aztecs. They were still saves after a fashion, but at least they didn’t have to worry about getting their hearts ripped out. Now, after a time they got fed up with the Spanish and drove them out, and what did they do after that? They picked more despots who continued to abuse them and run the country into the ground. Now, this tells me that the majority of Mexicans lack the judgment to determine good leadership. This fact is also borne out by the overwhelming support they give to Obama. Picking a despot, thanks a lot.
I would say that only about 30% of Mexicans are intellectually qualified to be here, and none of those are illegals.
But let’s talk about another culture, because this issue is larger than Mexico (even though they make up the gross majority of illegals). I am bringing my wife in from India, but that does not mean I want to take everyone from the state of Chattisgarh and drop it right down on top of Georgia. If that happens then all the messed up things that are happening in Chattisgarh will happen in Georgia. You can expect the streets to be as crowded as the Atlanta Aquarium, you can expect chaotic traffic, animals crapping in the streets, adds spraypainted on the side of your house, and you better get a concrete fence around your house to prevent theft. Also, you can kiss any pride parades goodbye. If you try pulling off a pride parade anywhere in India then your life expectency is going to drop to whatever age you are at the moment.
Let me make it simple, the quality of a country is a direct result of the people who compose it. If hordes of 3rd world villagers pour into the US (which is what most 3rd worlders are), then those conditions will be reproduced here. The more their numbers grow, the more the US will become like the country they came from. Don’t believe me? Are the neighborhoods the live in once they come here nice? Are they safe? Who is involved in most of the crime there? If they couldn’t build a good country in their homeland then what is the basis for assuming they will do so here?
So quality control is essential. It is OK to have immigration from the 3rd world, but only of intelligent people, and only as much as our economy can handle.
We may need foreign doctors, engineers, and computer experts to come here because very few Americans are entering into those fields. Most people want to get liberal arts degrees which are becoming progressively more useless. Maybe it’s because our culture is decaying, like the Romans, or our gene pool may be decaying, but either way bringing in qualified intelligent people to work those jobs will compensate for that a little and help bolster are civilizaton. Bringing in hordes of ignorant village people will accelerate the decline of our civilization. They will only bring their village mentality and culture with them, and they will demand that we adapt to them rather than the reverse. One need only look at what happened to the Romans as they let all kinds of Germanic barbarians enter. They ended up losing everything, and the same can happen to us.
Feeling sorry for people because their country is a crapheap is a poor reason to let them in, unless perhaps they are a persecuted religious or ethnic minority (like Coptic Egyptians). Their country is a crap heap because they made it that way, and letting them in will not ameliorate any of the poor conditions in the country from which they fled. Also, the numbers in the 3rd world country will rapidly replenish, so there will be even more people that want in next time. If you liberals feel so bad for the people in 3rd world countries, then get up and go there to help them, but do it with your own money, not tax payer money. Christians, which most of you guys hate, have been doing this for a long time.
That’s all I have to say on this topic, but check out the videos below for additional thoughts on the issue:
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There are many questions regarding the policy which is why it’s important to speak to an immigration attorney. The application process can be difficult. You don’t want to submit an incomplete or inaccurate application and a lawyer can assist in making sure that it is precise and professional.