February 6, 2013

  • Disrespectful Entry on Training a Man

    I saw this flagrantly disrespectful entry on Datingish called “Stay! Sit! Play Dead!” and it was advice for women on how to train their man.  They were attempting to draw an analogy between dog training and inducing a desired behavior in the man.  This entry has to be one of the most disgusting and disrespectful things I have seen in a long time.  Imagine if a man had written an entry like that about women, where everything was the same except for the genders being reversed.  The feminists, and the majority of other women, would eat his brains out. 

    I am going to repost it here before they take it down:

    This post was submitted by Alison Seymour.

    Today I spoke to a married friend of mine who complained about her husband’s apathy towards helping her out around the house. She wishes he complimented her more, that he would be more motivated to get into shape for her, etc. Her struggles reminded me of the hilarious book, “What Shamu taught me about a happy marriage,” written by the brilliant Amy Sutherland.

    Amy writes:  “My husband Scott is well read, adventurous and makes me laugh: I love him. But he’s also forgetful, untidy and a terrible time keeper. He suffers from serious bouts of spousal deafness, but never fails to hear me when I curse him under my breath from afar. Some years ago we took possession of Dixie, an eight-week-old excitable puppy that I took to obedience class. Over six weeks, I watched her transform and marveled at how I had managed to change and control another species. I wrote in my diary: ‘Try on husband.’ I did – and it worked.” 

    The goal here isn’t to try to control someone else but really to learn how to make your boundaries known and stick to them so you won’t one day be repeating my friend’s wish list as your own. 

    Nagging won’t work, not only will it not work but it’s counterproductive. Dog trainers don’t nag their pets! Instead of pointing a finger, make a big deal about rewarding the behavior that you like and ignore the rest, and do so on a consistent basis. Punishing the behavior you don’t like will most likely lead to more of that behavior. Animal trainers use a technique called L.R.S, which is the Least Reinforcing System, this is where trainers will act completely aloof when the animal does something wrong.

    L.R.S is based on the principle that any response fuels a behavior so if there’s no response at all, the behavior will decrease over time. If you want to reap the benefits of L.R.S, you gotta bite your tongue when your guy does that thing you hate. Use this opportunity as a test of your patience – breathe in, breathe out, namaste. We are all reward-seeking, and nobody likes to feel bad about themselves.  Eventually your dude will naturally stop doing the things you hate because it will get him nowhere. He will do more of the things you want him to do because it will be in his best interest to do so as it will result in special dinners for him and extra attention between the sheets. Ta-da, winning!

    How do you feel about this form of ‘training’? Has it worked for you? Would you try it?

    Source: http://www.datingish.com/771567708/stay-sit-play-dead/?page=1&jump=1528025629&leftcmt=1#1528025629

    First of all, you don’t go to strangers with your relationship problems.  You resolve them between you like adults, and if you can’t do that for any reason then one or both of you is not cut out for being in an adult relationship. 

    Second, what the mess is spousal deafness?  Oh… is he untidy and a poor timekeeper, my heart just bleeds for you.  Oh yes it does… OK not really.  So he still manages to hear when you curse him?  Why are you cursing him in the first place?  Where is your sense of propriety?  Try cursing your husband or complaining about his untidiness in a non-white country.  Pick any non-white country.  You know what you will get?  A smack across the face, and if you don’t like it there is nothing you can do.  You can’t take him to court, and if you try then they are just going to tell you to shut up and stop wasting their time.  If you’re in an Islamic country you might get an acid shower for cusring your husband.  There is no man more demonized than the white western male, and at the same time there is no man who treats women better, on average, than the white western male.  That is why we have the highest level of interracial and international marketability, because in spite of all the PC bullcrap, most women are aware of this FACT.  But I digress, if she is cursing her man, then there is a fatal flaw in the relationship with either her, or him.  Since she is the one talking about it online my guess is that it’s her. 

    I used to have girlfriends that talked about me online, even though I bent over backwards to make them happy and give them whatever they wanted.  That was before I woke up fully to reality.  When you spoil someone like that, they come to feel entitled, and rather than appreciate what you do for them they treat you like crap when you don’t do it or if you don’t do it fast enough.  We see the same thing from the welfare crowd.

    I still can’t get past the dog training analogy.  I like dogs.  In fact, in general I like dogs better than I like humans, but talking about training a man like training an animal is both degrading and backwards.  You don’t train a man, you find someone who you can deal with and you deal with it.  If you can’t deal succesfully with anyone then it’s probably a personal flaw.  Who died and made that woman so special?  I don’t believe in putting women on pedistals.  If you treat them like a queen then they will treat you like a servant.

    To me, this article is reflective of the sour rancid and domineering attitude that a lot of women have these days.  I said a lot, not all, so there is no reason to scream.  But when it comes down to things like this, I am reminded of why I decided to look overseas for a bride rather than domestically.  And yes, I caught some flak when I told certain people about what I was doing.  I got flak from feminists who were angry with me for bucking their carefully established boundaries, and I got some grief from “white knights” who told me that I was being disrespectful to women here, or disloyal (If you listen carefully enough you might hear the sound of me not caring).  I also caught some crap from white supremacists who said I had a duty to reproduce white children no matter how much crap the woman puts me through (hey there’s an idea for you extreme feminists, you can hook it up with the white supremacists).  But at the end of the day, I believe that my decision was the correct one. 

    The fact is, there is such an impetus in our culture to degrade men.  If you look at the TV shows you can see that the man is always getting in trouble with the woman, and that he’s afraid of his wife, and the intelligent and crafty wife is always having to chastise and correct the foolish and wayward husband.  What kind of message does that send?  They also portray fathers in a negative light in a lot of the teen and tween shows.  The father is always out of touch, and has to be set straight by his kids and his wife. 

    Our culture is not well, and the changes the left has made to our culture are anything but progress.

    This is all backwards.  I wasn’t planning on ranting on this next, but after seeing this I had to say something.

Comments (8)

  • Liberals and/or feminists have different sets of rules for different sets of people it seems. So by saying “if this was written by a man about a woman”… That just doesn’t cut it in their eyes. Even though by every level of reason and logic it does. The idea that they think with their feelings rings true often times when it comes to stuff like this.

    Try this article on for size:

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/updates/are-jews-aware-of-their-condition/

    A reasonable person would read that and understand just how sickening gynocentrism and feminism has come. But nah…

  • @AmorVomnia7 - Exactly.  In any case, the die hards aren’t going to understand, most of what I do here is for fence sitters and for people who just don’t know.  But then, the major impetus is my being pissed off, which seems to be happening more and more these days..

    That article, disturbing and difficult to read as it was, really drives home the point on how ridiculous things have gotten.  This is why I am importing my wife from India.

  • If you go to the post, several of the ladies of Xanga have voiced our disgust with it in the comments. We think it’s as disgusting as you do. 

  • @Pickwick12 - Yea I know, and I appreciate that.  Anyways I was just speaking in terms of generalizations rather than absolute all inclusive statements, whch was why I said “a lot” rather than “all”.  If you notice, whenever I am talking about demographics I always tend to speak in generalizations rather than absolutes because generalizations allow for exceptions.

  • I just saw this entry.  You know, this kind of bull shit is what I was expected to do with the behaviorally “disabled” (i.e. undisciplined) kids at the job I just left today.  “Give him lots of stickers and treats for doing what’s expected of him.  Keep a calm and passive voice when he’s doing ‘undesired [mis]behaviors’.  Don’t raise your voice, it may further escalate his [mis]behaviors.”  In my last semester of college (I graduated in Psychology, hugeeee mistake), which was Fall/2011 I took a course on Animal Behavior Theory, which included training service dogs.  There is an unmistakeably identical way of viewing these children as we did the dogs.  The difference  in my opinion, is that even children have a faculty of volition, and therefore should be held responsible for inappropriate behavior.  Dogs do have some volition, but usually only after they are trained to.  To compare children’s behavior with dogs is dehumanizing enough.  Treating a man you’re supposed to care for like an untrained animal is monstrous. 

  • @DrummingMediocrity - Yes the whole thing about ignoring bad behaviors to make them go away is stupid.  The only time that might work is if the undesired behaviors are attention seeking behaviors.  For example, internet trolls/keyboard warriors.  When it comes to men, usually if a guy is doing something that annoys his girl and she doesn’t let him know then he’s just going to keep doing it.  I thought the entry was pretty sick, talking about training men.  I don’t see how that is any different than the type of attitude Islamic men take toward their women.

    BTW, I hope you realize that I wasn’t talking about all women in the US when I was ranting on about bad attitudes and non-marriagibility.  I know that not all women are like that.  Sometimes I just get all steamed up and then rage on about something.  I think I still manage to put disclaimers on most of my generalizations and theories but I also think I still manage to come across as pretty heavy handed, like the Hulk Smash of the blog world.

  • lol no worries, I don’t blame you.  Also you said it better than I could.  (: 

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