January 31, 2013
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Should we break the Republican party?
Guys, this time I’m not really writing an entry in the traditional sense, I’m just looking for some feedback. Do you think we should break the Republican party? The Republicans have accused Obama of wanting to dissipate their party, and Obama has denied this, but on the other hand Republicans are talking about becoming more liberal in order to stay relevant. In my opinion if they become more liberal then that makes them irrelevant. Should we all just ditch the Republican party and vote 3rd party? Is the difference between the Repubs and Dems still large enough to justify our voting for them?
What are your thoughts?
Comments (16)
I was told in person by a Republican governor who currently has a TV show that, “We have a seat at the table now.” He further admonished me that libertarians aren’t welcome in the party any more. I left and have voted Libertarian guiltlessly since. In light of the physical assaults on Ron Paul delegates, harassment of people who hold libertarian values, and the screwy political tactics by Romney and McCain…
The Republican party is broken now.
Voting for president is irrelevant anymore. Illegals will always ensure that the prez will be a dem.
@virtus1 - Yea… you know lately have been getting a feeling that they are more concerned about holding onto their positions than doing what is best for the country, which in my view makes them even less principled than the Democrats. Of course the Democrats are also concerned about holding their positions, but they are much better at adhering to their party platform. The Democrat party principles are evil, but at least the Dems stick to them, whereas the Republicans seem to be selling us out.
So if the RNC is not right wing anymore then what are they? Who is their constituency if it’s not the patriots?
@soccerdadforlife - Now they want to legalize 11 million more of those rats, which means that even more of them will come. The Dems have uses immigration to ensure their dominance. This is why we need secession.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - So you want a repeat of the Civil War, where the secessionists lost??? Why do you think that states will be allowed to secede? Voting for prez has failed for now, but it’s possible for the states to make voting for prez an option in the future.
Why don’t you work with me and advocate for a 5-mil-man march on Washington under the slogan, “Next time with guns?”
It’s not only that both parties are beginning to look like liberals, it’s that the few Republicans who still remember and believe in the principles of their party are ostracized or marginalized by the mainstream party. It is stupidity to think that getting a seat at the table or a foot in the door has any significance if one then speaks and acts like the other party.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - There isn’t really much of a difference between the National Socialists and the Red Russians. The difference was the National Socialists allowed the private ownership of the means of production while the Reds killed more residents. The Nazis and Reds hated each other. Republicans seem to support more private ownership of the means of production, but Republicans and Democrats are two turds swirling in the same bowl otherwise. The two parties hate each other in public, but their genuine contempt is for anyone who threatens their quest for power and opulence.
@soccerdadforlife - Well I think that a break up of the US is inevitable, especially with large blocs of unassimilated people. We may be looking at a lose-lose scenario here.
The secessionists lost because the Union had a bigger better army and the bulk of the states on their side. The second time around things might be reversed.
I am open to suggestions. Maybe next time you go to Washington I’ll go with you, although I suspect that we might all end up incarcerated or blacklisted.
@quest4god@revelife - Exactly. What do you think we should do about it? Vote Libertarian?
@virtus1 - I find no fault with anything you just said there. Sad but true.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I vote – always have; but it’s hard to think that my vote of any sort will have an effect on the outcome. One thing that bothers me is that we have so much desire to know outcomes way before the fact that pollsters (and I don’t really trust their objectivity or honesty) tell us from the beginning what the results will be. I think they create their own ideal reality and then report it as breaking news.
I have always leaned toward the Libertarian philosophy but as for any one particular person, I don’t know what libertarian means to them in effect. I don’t believe that security or peace is more valuable than freedom. Security and peace are more up to the individual than the government – except for national security from outside threats, and protection of our inalienable rights within, not guarantee of outcome economically.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Nothing happens with the march until we have 5 million people signed up to go. That’s too many for the feds to lock up or kill.
@quest4god@revelife – I’ve been a member of the Libertarian Party since 1994, and active since 1995. For me, it’s easy to sum up libertarianism – If you’re not hurting anyone else and you do what you’ve agreed to do with others, then do as you please.
A site that really gives you an idea of what libertarianism is all about is The Libertarian Enterprise. Also, The Probability Broach was what helped me see “the big picture” with libertarian thought.
As for the GOP, I’m OK with them joining their predecessors (the Whigs) in oblivion. Serves ‘em right, considering the quality (or more properly, lack of quality) displayed by their candidates in the last election.
@quest4god@revelife - Yes I agree. I definitely got the impression that the media and pollsters were desperately trying to influence things in Obama’s favor, and I imagine they succeeded in discouraging a lot of conservative people from voting. I always took their statistics as malarky, and I still do. The fact is voting fraud was absolutely rampant in the last election. Not only did I get deleted from my precinct, but they sent me a note later boldly proclaiming that they did not count my vote.
I agree entirely. I keep saying this to people on the left but it keeps going in one ear and out the other. I have come to the conclusion that liberalism is the result of a mental disorder which impairs basic reasoning skills.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - ” I have come to the conclusion that liberalism is the result of a mental disorder which impairs basic reasoning skills.”
That’s good! And not too far off in reality. The liberal goes by what “feels good” (or what others say ought to feel good). The range of the moment, the fear of impotency – not being able to provide for oneself, the abdication of responsibility – these are the ruling forces in the liberal’s mind.
@quest4god@revelife - Exactly, and well said, but you also need to throw an unfounded blind trust in government into that mix.