December 3, 2012
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Question for ALL Obamanites
I have a question for ALL Obamanites, and I have yet to receive a straight answer on this, or any kind of answer. I have asked quite a few of you guys this question, and either my inbox on both Yahoo and Xanga is malfunctioning or this question is an automatic conversation stopper. But I want to put it to you all right now and in plain sight.
The question is, how do you feel about tax money being sent to sponsor Islam and the spread of Islam? As you know, or should know, Obama is giving money to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. He is also giving money to Pakistan, and Hamas. Yes Hamas. The money these people receive will help fund the building of mosques, Islamic education and indoctrination in public schools for both Muslims and non-Muslims, and the killing of Christians and Jews. I know that most of you guys probably don’t pay taxes, but for the sake of argument (and for those who do), how do you feel about this? Do you think it is fair for Obama to demand tax hikes when this is how he spends our money? Every time I ask these questions I get no answers from you guys. I can almost hear the crickets.
The thing is, I have a sneaking suspicion that the gross majority of you guys are OK with this, and that even if you don’t entirely agree with it you consider it to be a small blip rather than a real serious and deadly problem. I have a theory that if Obama were somehow able to run for a third term 99.999% of you who came out for him the second time would come out for him again.
I know there are a lot of die hard atheists and Godless liberals on the left who supposedly get enraged over public endorsement and funding of any “religion.” I know you guys get all bent up over things like the ten commandments being in courthouses, “In God we Trust” beng on money, and you claim to be adamantly opposed to your tax money going to fund any kind of theocracy. Well here’s the thing, your money is going to fund a theocracy. You worked hard to get God out of the public education in the US, and any time there is talk about putting disclaimers about evolution in public schools then you cry theocracy again (even though it’s not). But now you have your tax money going to support a religion, teaching of a religion in public schools, and you are directly funding theocratic systems which hate you just as much as they hate us. All of those countries are theocracies, every last one. Make no mistake on that. Oh yes, the Muslims hate all non-believers, whether they be atheists or Christians. There is no separation of “church and state” (or Mosque and state if you will) in the Middle East and North Africa The life expectency of an overt atheist in the Middle East is at least as short as that of an open Christian. Obama is using your money to sponsor theocracies that hate us. Where is your indignation?
This is why I think that all you self proclaimed anti-religious leftists and Godless liberals don’t really hate all religions, just Christianity. Because I have not seen one ounce of outcry over this. Instead I still see all kinds of talk about how you want to raise taxes on “the rich,” which BTW is not a fixed category (more on that later).
But I do want a serious answer from you guys. If this has caused you to break with Obama, or even the DNC as a whole then I want to know so I can shake your hand. If this has not caused you to break with Obama then I want to hear your reason/excuse. Explain to me how you are not a hypocrite in that case.
Comments (18)
I’m not in the least bit an obamatard. I can offer insight, though.
1. When a Democrat is in office, all wars are good wars to the authoritarian left. When a Republican is in office, the same wars are wars of empire. Convenience is a Democrat’s best friend.
2. The Muslim Brotherhood has been around for 80ish years, and has deep connections with US and British intelligence. The Muslim Bros do what the MI5, Director of National Intelligence, CIA, etc, tells them to do.
3. James Clapper told the intelligence committee of the House of Reps that the Muslim Brotherhood is a mainly secular group consisting of lots of organizations with various anti-violence agendas. Obamatards are OK with normalizing violence and use propaganda to achieve their goals.
These in mind, it seems like the authoritarian left is interested in keeping wars hot in the Middle East to make sure Lockheed keeps making political contributions to politicians in return for defense contracts. It’s not about the spread is Islam. Its about the spread of defense contracts.
@virtus1 - Yea I already figured that any war is OK as long as the Democrats are in charge. Obama carried on all of the Bush era war policies and immediately after he took over we didn’t hear so much as an ounce of bitching, which just goes to show that the average Democrat voter is more about bitching than principle.
Didn’t think about the defense contracts though.
I just wanted to see if any of them would even try to produce some sort of defense for their hypocrisy, but I might be asking for too much from them. I haven’t even seen Agnophilos skull around here, and he is one of Obama’s online pointmen.
You’ve asserted that Obama has supposedly funded Islamist groups, when it would more accurately be described as the American Government, and would be something that would pre-date Obama’s Presidency.
That’s beside the point: where’s your evidence of your assertions?
Oh, and to @virtus1 - it’s not just Democrats that supposedly manufacture/maintain conflicts to ensure the military-industrial complex can maintain contracts – the Republicans are just as bad – see Iraq 2003.
@cmdr_keen - I was talking about Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/13/obama-sends-147-million-to-hamas-run-gaza
http://www.wnd.com/2009/02/89949/
Obama has started giving money to Hamas after the war with Israel. He also funded the Pisslamic revolution in Egypt. Obama has effectively put us under the Jizya tax.
Do you still support Obama after knowing these things? If so then you must be OK with your money (and mine) going to build mosques, fund Islamic education/indoctrination, and being used to kill Christians and Jews. Because that is what the money is being used for. I personally think that Obama should be put in handcuffs and dragged out of the white house for this, but that is only possible in a sane world.
@cmdr_keen - Also what do you think about him giving our money to Myanmar? I know Myanmar isn’t a pisslamic hellhole (though it may still be a hellhole of another sort), but doesn’t it strike you as irresponsible for him to give away tax money during both a recession and a record high deficit?
I’d rather fund the spread of Islam than xtianity.
It’s their culture and how they maintain control. It makes sense we would want to further it to our ends. You can’t just get rid of something like that. You have to mold it to fit your own agenda.
“Don’t bite the hand that feeds you,” etc.
There’s always a reason for what they do. Whether or not it’s a good reason depends on the person and his interests.
I’m all for destabilizing these stupid countries, gutting them and moving on. We have a good empire going. Why would we want to go back to the stone age for peace, love and brotherhood?
The game is complicated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAUuXhcXfCI
@cmdr_keen - 1. You assume falsely that I have concern for Republicans. I don’t. I’m not a Republican.
2. The topic of this post is not about how Republicans pander to the military-industrial complex. The topic is how Democrats pimp Islam. Your complaint lacks any useful quality. Readers will find no defense of Republican wars in my writing.
I googled “obama fund muslim brotherhood” (without quotes) and every single link was explaining that it was a made up, bullshit lie (link).
You just spent half an hour ranting angrily about something it took me 2 seconds to find out wasn’t true. And you won’t even give a shit that it’s not true. You don’t care. You’ll probably just repeat it some more.
@agnophilo - Biden admitted in the Biden/Ryan debate that the USA is and has been sending “other aid and training” to the opposition in Syria. The opposition he will not say by name is the Muslim Brotherhood. Yes, that is Syria and not Egypt, but the foreign, military, and humanitarian aid is going to the Muslim Brotherhood. Biden trumps politifact. You know, politifact. The propaganda mill that Rachel Maddow considers,”shockingly, shockingly bad” at trying to figure out if some assertion is a lie. Perhaps you should use better sources.
@SKANLYN - I’m fairly certain that you are a spoof so I am just going to block your account, because I have no patience for spoofers.
@agnophilo - It’s not hard to find information about what Barack Osama is doing: http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/04/obama-gives-1-5-billion-to-egypt-and-the-muslim-brotherhood/
Also, what do you think about how he is giving money to Hamas?
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - As I predicted you would not care and simply repeat the lie.
Have fun living in your hate-filled fantasy world.
@agnophilo - It is you that is denying facts. He is giving money to Egypt. Guess who is in charge of Egypt. He is also giving money to Hamas, and to Pakistan. These are all easily verifiable facts. I don’t know how you can be so thoroughly datablind. This man could kill a baby on public TV and eat it’s brains, and you would sit there and say “nope, didn’t happen, this is easily debunked.” You are an unmitigated sycophant.
@virtus1 - You construe that (a) I care about your political leanings and (b) I call you a Republican. I didn’t do either.
I highlighted that both Democrats and Republicans have interests in ensuring continuation of defense contracts with no further commentary.
Your comment took the discussion into the realm of defense contracts “These in mind, it seems like the authoritarian left is interested in keeping wars hot in the Middle East to make sure Lockheed keeps making political contributions to politicians in return for defense contracts. It’s not about the spread is Islam. Its about the spread of defense contracts.”So kettle, stop calling the pot black.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - That is like characterizing aid to the US as a contribution to the democratic party because obama is in the white house. It is a false, misleading claim and you couldn’t care less about the actual truth.
@agnophilo - It’s because of comments like this that so many people are blocking you. Do I really have to explain to you why that analogy is invalid or are you just being a troll now?
@cmdr_keen - Given the context, one could not conclude otherwise.
Since I brook no support for the standing military, your pot/kettle cliche is nonsense.