October 18, 2012
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What is it about Obama?
I have a question, what is it about Obama that makes people lay down in mud puddles so that he can walk over them instead of getting his feet wet?
We have Hillary who has taken full blame for what happened in Libya. Hillary has killed her career so that this man could look like less of a bumbler in the next election. Of course, he still looks like a bumbler, but some people will absolve him because of her. During the Democratic primary she also gave up her bid for this man and switched to join his camp. What is it?
What is it that caused Judge Roberts to switch sides and allow Obamacare to remain? What did Obama have on this man? Or what did Obama do for him? Roberts didn’t need to be re-elected, why didn’t he stand up to Obama?
Why is the media campaigning so hard to get this man re-elected? The liberal media of today is every tyrants wet dream. Most of the time tyrants have to coerce the media into running their propaganda, but the mainstream media does it in the US for absolutely nothing. It’s shocking, and absolutely disgusting.
They have done nothing but try to influence the election in his favor. They will not say a single bad thing about Obama, they will not talk about how his policies have effected the economy. They will not talk about how his policies are making the country weaker both militarily and economically. Romney trounced Obama in the last debate. The only way the smack down could have been more complete was if Romney bent him over his knee and literally spanked him. He had an answer for everything that man said, and he penned him to his record. Obama got trounced, how can the media turn around and say it’s a win for Obama?
What is it about this man that causes people to literally worship him?
Yes, I mean worship.
It is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.
Listen, this man is the biggest hypocrite ever to enter politics. How is he going to tell us what sort of healthcare we should have when he is clearly not qualified to make intelligent decisions about health. Yes, I’m talking about his smoking. If a Republican were trying to pass health care reform and he were a smoker then the liberal media would chew him up and spit him out. Why is there no talk about Obama’s smoking? Also, if Obamacare is so good then all these forsaken politicians should be the first to sign up, but they exempt themselves. Why?
Also, I don’t want to be lectured by fiscal or personal responsibility by the king of wasteful spending. In the real world people with poor credit are discriminated against. Why should Obama be an exception? These are the questions I want answered. What is so great about this man?
I can’t understand this kind of loyalty that goes beyond all sense.
Comments (26)
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What makes you think that they way you think and believe is the Right Way and there couldn’t possibly be Another Way?
Sounds like you’re in favor of a dictatorship to me.
Judge Roberts got himself in tangles as he was trying to rise above the partisan bickering over healthcare and make both sides happy… and ended up annoying both, although as the primary provision of the ACA remained, it was seen as a Democratic victory.
Every politican who ever was can be presented a hypocrite, and if occasional smoking in one of the most, if not The Most high pressure job one can ever have is what helps him through, who are you to say otherwise? Even then, there are plenty of doctors who have unhealthy habits themselves. Does that make them any less qualified to treat you?
This is just partisanship which is wrecking this country. It won’t be one man who brings down the country, it’ll be the internal divisions within it and the lack of compromise and constructive talking between opposite sides which will damage the country terminally. We’ve heard a lot about Tip O’Neil and Ronald Reagan being able to work together – that’s a pipe dream in the current climate and BOTH sides are to blame for it.
@PrisonerxOfxLove Don’t you mean Stoopid?
@cmdr_keen - Logic, enlightened self interest, the Bible.
I’m in favor of dictatorship? You mean, like passing NDAA with an executive order?
You can’t force people with disparately contrasting cultures and values to form a cohesive society. Eventually we have to reach critical mass and either have a second War Between the States, peaceful secession, or some dictator like Barack Osama assumes martial law and puts all the people like me into the FEMA camps. Let’s see what happens.
As I stated before, the difference between the Democrats of back then and the Democrats of today is quite vast. The ideological divide between the parties has grown from a line to a yawning chasm. Actually the problem I see is that the Republicans are willing to work with Obama way too much. They should have stopped Obamacare cold, and I don’t buy that Judge Roberts was trying to win favor from both sides. He’s not an elected or electable official, so he can do whatever he wants without worrying about political fallout. Obama had something on him, or he offered him something.
@cmdr_keen - No but if we vote for Obama and he gets another 4 years I bet we will end up with one.
@derekwilson24 – What possible evidence do you have that supports that ridiculous assertion?
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex – the NDAA was implemented by Bush; continued by Obama.
Given the mix of immigrants that form the US, given the general every day peace and stability all Americans enjoy, I’d say we’re not heading towards your hoped-for doomsday scenario.
Ah, so you ARE for a dictatorship then: the art of democracy is compromise, and you’re promoting no compromises based on your “superior logic”
Ridiculous.
It’s not the man in himself, it’s what he represents. first election he gave more poetic speeches preaching unity and hope, when racial issues surfaced. I’m not justifying it, but people want the fairytale ending. I think he did decent as our president but I do agree with you that he is not ‘all that’. He as a president accomplished about as much as Reagan did. The loyalty comes from his campaigning approach, of becoming ‘friends’ with the people instead of lumping them into groups or labels. When say the group ’ObamaforAmerica’ sends an email, they send it directly to the person “to amanda” they make it personal like they are sending a personal email “hey Amanda, Barack says hi”
Not “to whom this is concerned” or “To supporters of Romney”
I guess it’s b/c Obama has a good singing voice and a pretty smile. You’d be surprised how shallow the American public is. He was a sexy commie when he was younger, one of the few. I’d still kick him out of bed though.
@DrummingMediocrity - It makes me sick to think that things like that might actually influence how some people vote. I was smarter than that when I was 7. Maybe Kim Kardashian will run for president next, not that she could be any worse than Obama, but if having looks combined with a complete lack of substance are what makes a succesful candidate then she could go pretty far.
But you know what is truly scary? More frightening than Obama getting another four years? What is truly frightening is that if anything happens to Barack Osama then Biden will take over.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - LOL Biden is an embarrassment.
@cmdr_keen - No sir, the Patriot Act was instituted by Bush, and that was bad enough, but NDAA is something new.
After Bush I said, “what we need is a true conservative who can take us in the opposite direction of Bush,” but instead we got Obungle, who was the opposite of what we needed. Not only did he carry on all of the terrible Bush policies, but he instituted new policies of his own which were more terrible.
Secession isn’t a doomsday scenario, it’s a freedom scenario. Obama using the FEMA camps IS a doomsday scenario and it is not something I am hoping for.
Explain to me how forcing widely disparate cultures with antithetical sets of values to live together is not tyranny, and explain to me how anything other than dictatorship and force can hold such peoples together? We would all be much happier if we could all go our separate ways and you know this is true. You could have your fully liberal society, like England, or North Korea, and I could have my conservative society like the Kiev Rus, classic Rome, or classic Biblical Israel.
@Amandascowen - So maybe you like him on a personal level but you still don’t understand, or at least personally identify with the hysteria. Do you suppose that party loyalty factors in? What I really don’t get is why Hillary took the fall for this guy, twice. I can’t think of any president I would take a bullet for, either literally or figuratively.
Obama and Reagan are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. They both caused some changes, but totally different kinds of changes.
@DrummingMediocrity - He is that, but I don’t think they are nearly as embarrassed by him as they should be. The liberals seem to think he won his debate. I just found it painful to watch. But it really said a lot about him. He is a spiteful, foolish, and hateful man. If ever took over from Obama things we could expect to start seeing laws that were purely and openly vindictive.
@derekwilson24 - There are lots of questions that this man should be made to answer. Why does he want to put drones over the US? What are the FEMA camps for? That’s what I really want to know. What does this man intend to do with the FEMA camps? Why has he staffed them? God help us if he wins.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Listen that I don’t get either. I was a hilary supporter so I can’t answer that one. I’m assuming that by showing party loyalty, when the republican party seems to gain loyalty to party easier, it’s a campaign strategy to draw the same supporter voters.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - By NDAA are you referring to the annual National Defense Authorization Act? If so, that was at the very least continued by George W Bush: LINK 1 President Obama continued the trend of his predecessors in the important area of national security.
FYI, England and North Korea aren’t even equivalent, nor could they even be considered “Liberal.” It’s just nonsensical. England is a representative directly-elected democracy, which currently has the Republican equivalents – the Conservatives – in power. They’re currently governing in coalition with the Liberal Democrats, who could be best characterized as bridging the gap between them and Labor, the UK equivalent to Democrats (though far more left than US Democrats). North Korea is the definition of a Communist ideology-based dictatorship through a Personality Cult style of leadership. Completely different in every conceivable metric.
The cultures and value sets present in this country would not be characterized as “widely disparate” nor “antithetical,” and it’s a ridiculous notion that they are. The country doesn’t require tyranny, or dictatorship to “hold them together” and secession has already been tried once before: it failed then, and it would fail now. The beauty of the United States is that it’s greater than a sum of its parts. You divide the US up, and not only will the world lose the largest and most influential economy, but the people living here would go through unimaginable suffering. It is just not a realistic proposal, and any sane person will see that.
Again, you’re scaremongering with no valid basis to even begin attempting to gather evidence to support your position. If you truly believe that, what makes you think that Mitt Romney will do anything different to change this supposed course?
@cmdr_keen - Obama signed NDAA in 2012: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/martial-law-under-another_b_1370819.html Yes Bush was a douche, he signed the Patriot Act, so Bush was bad, but now we’re talking about Obama. So if NDAA wasn’t enough Obama has now issued an executive order to rob us of more freedoms called National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order.
They are not equivalent but they are both varying shades of red. In England we have a pink shade of communism, and in North Korea we have blood red communism. How can you say that England is not liberal? England is ground zero for liberalism and multiculturalism. Come on man. They passed hate speech laws making racism illegal. You can literally be arrested there for being racist. Yes a more conservative party is in charge in England right now, and when they tried to enact some austerity measures/fiscal responsibility all the entitlement idiots and ungrateful immigrants rioted like crazy. The conservatives in England, such as there are, have their hands tied so much by all the liberal legislation that was put in place. They can’t do anything about immigration, and they can’t bring back freedom of speech. Anyways, you should embrace a society like England. They don’t allow Michael Savage or Geert Wilders aren’t allowed to enter there. They have a socialistic economy, they have socialized health care, they don’t allow “hate speech,” and racism is against the law. The conservatives are so weak in England that getting rid of abortion isn’t even on the table. There is also a lot of immigration from 3rd world countries to bring in cultural enrichment. So many Muslims and Africans are there. It would be your kind of place. If you try to tell me it’s not your kind of place then I simply will not believe you, because you support the Democrats and they are trying to make America like England.
We won’t suffer at all by losing the liberal states. We will be 100% fine without them. Maybe you guys will suffer from losing us because your tax revenues will no longer be able to support your social programs, but on the other hand there would no longer be any basis for conflict between us. You could have your abortions, homosexuality, high taxes, and unlimited immigration without any opposition from us. You could create your left wing utopian society with NDAA, drones, and tracking microchips beneath the skin, or whatever it is you guys want. How can you not say our values are antithetical? You are pro-abortion and we are pro-life, we are pro-death penalty for criminals and you are not, you are pro-taxes and we are pro-economy, you are anti-gun and we are pro-gun, you are anti-family and we are pro-family, you are pro-homosexual and we are anti-homosexual, you are mostly evolutionists and we are mostly creationist, you are pro-islam and we are anti-islam, we are anti-immigration and you are pro-immigration, we are pro-Israel and you are anti-Israel, you are pro-union and we are anti-union, you are pro-UN and we are anti-UN. Seriously. The only reason for you to want to keep us is for the revenue we generate. Our core values and beliefs are 100% in opposition to each other.
You have no basis for saying that secession does not work. The American colonies seceded from England just fine. Why? Because they had become a separate people. At the core of the matter that is what it is. Your people and mine are separate peoples. We may speak the same language and we may both be white, but we have nothing in common in terms of values, beliefs, and goals. We are different peoples. If you want to talk about the War Between the States, the Confederacy was doing just fine before the Union decided to blockade them. The Union could have let them go their separate way and everything would have been fine, except that you had people in the Union who were control freaks that didn’t want to lose the tax revenue from the south. It was all about money and control.
If you are against losing our economic status then why are you pro-Obama? He doubled the national deficit, lost our triple A rating, and has substantially weakened our military. He also canceled our space program. This man has done nothing but downgrade the US, and he’s got people in his staff who have gone on the record saying that they want to downgrade the US in some way or another. De-develop the US, bankrupt the coal industry, etc. Bastards. I say send them all to Kenya or Pakistan. Anyways, if we have an ideological secession then the south and center of the country can carry on, because that is where most of the power comes from. You liberals in the northeast coast and west coast won’t have as much power, but there is no justifying those states having the power to put leaders over us. Also, you would be free of us, so the basis for conflict between us would be gone.
Mitt Romney isn’t my ideal candidate, but he’s a lot better than Obama, and he is also better than Bush. He’s got sense, and he comes from a business background. I’m not counting on him to make any positive social change, but he will restore our military and economic strength.
@Amandascowen - On the Republican side you have the “yellow dog Republicans,” who are going to come out and vote Republican no matter what. The idea is that they believe a yellow dog running on the Republican ticket would still be better than whatever the Democrats put out by default. Then you have the crowd who votes Republican just to keep the Democrat candidate out. On the Republican side the people who are genuinely excited about the Republican candidates are probably a small percentage. Part of the reason is disappointment with Bush + disappointment with the results of the Republican primary. I wanted to have either Ron Paul or Herman Cain, and neither of them won it. I thought Rick Santorum was also good but he also didn’t get the nomination. So I can’t speak for everyone, but I had the feeling that they chose who they wanted to win the primary before the candidates were actually up for election. They put up all neo-con type characters, rather than true conservatives. A lot of people want to punish the Republican party this year and have chosen to vote 3rd party. I think it’s more out of fear of the Democrats that causes people to stick with the Republican party rather than any particular love for the party itself. Things would be much better if we had a multiparty system, like Israel. Then I could actually vote for someone who thoroughly represented me.
Although I have to say, I have warmed up to Romney a little after watching the debates. What we need is someone with a good sense of economics and a record for balancing the budget. It looks like he is going to strengthen the economy, the military, and resume exploration of space (which is important to me). But, on the other hand he doesn’t go as far as I would like. Ron Paul would have done away with the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax. I would also like to see someone reverse NDAA and the Patriot act, which unfortunately neither of these guys will do.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex – Wow, so much to unwrap here. Firstly, as a Englishman, I have firsthand knowledge of what the UK is like, and your characterization at best can be described as stereotypical, worst flat out wrong.
You keep tossing phrases around such as “socialism” and “communism” and you have no idea what they really mean.
I’m not going through the economic data again; I’ve done it twice now, with links to independent data sites, and you just ignore it as inconvenient facts.
You’re pro-life yet pro-death penalty? Yeah, that’s not a contradiction at all. I also love the fact that despite only talking to me through this post, you suddenly know all my positions and beliefs. For the record, you’re mostly wrong. The beauty of the United States is that it’s more than a collection of the whole. You split it up and you dilute the potential greatness inherent in the whole.
How, exactly, will Mitt Romney improve the military and economic position of the US? His plans – what we know of it – will only exacerbate the financial issues facing the country and is mandating military measures even the military don’t want.
Finally, you’re acting as if the NDAA is a new and Bad issue, and I’ve shown its history and what it’s for, and you’ve ignored it. Like most of what I’ve written. All you’ve done is parroted lies, half-truths, and wrongful mischaracterizations that are the hallmark of right-wing media. There’s nothing of substance in anything you’ve said, and really, all you’re advocating for is a theocracy based on a particular interpretation of a particular version of a Bible. That’s not what the country was founded on – some principles, yes, but not every tenet.
My suggestion is to stop with the ad hominem attacks and begin supporting your positions with facts and figures.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I was also surprised Ron Paul got beaten out at first but Romney changed over to the tea party, inretrospect he was the only good candidate for the republican side there’s no way Santorum would have been elected. He’s too conservative even for most republicans. I can’t say from what I’ve read that under Romeny -ryan thatthe economy will change for the better or worse, Romney has a good economicial reform plan but the tax cuts and ‘redistribution’ of allocation will push progress back before it raises the economy and employment. Obama-biden did start the ball rolling and their plan also works. To change it now might only sink the economy back down for another 4 years.
@cmdr_keen - Did you watch “My tram experience” on youtube? Do you know what happened to that woman? Why the hell was she arrested? On what rational basis? Not on a rational basis, but on the retarded “hate speech” and “racism” laws that are in place there. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/29/my-tram-experience-croydon
Or how about this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6047514.stm
Am I still wrong about England?
What about this? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8475965/Pub-singers-racism-arrest-over-Kung-Fu-Fighting-performance.html
You know, England used to be an awesome country, with an Empire that the sun never set on, but now it’s a sad pitiful joke, with more in common with 1984 than the England that used to make the world tremble. Now listen, I don’t want this sort of society imported to the US. I should be able to say whatever I bloody well please, no matter who it offends, without having to worry about getting arrested. And I will say whatever I want, regardless of the law. If the government wants to take me down for it then I’ll be a martyr.
It’s a fact that Obama signed NDAA into law. I don’t know how you can dispute that. Yes there was some bad stuff in place before him, but that doesn’t excuse what he has done. He signed it in 2012, and I sent you a link on this matter.
Redistribution of wealth IS socialism, I don’t know why you are trying to argue that it is something else. Also, I have read the Communist Manifesto, so I know what Communism is. Are you going to try to tell me that North Korea is not communist? Come on now.
With abortion you kill someone who hasn’t done anything, with the death penalty you are killing a murderer. It’s called balancing the scales.
Abortion = killing an unborn baby who hasn’t done anything wrong
Death penalty = bringing a murderer to justice
No I disagree. We need to go our separate ways, just like we broke from England during the 1700′s, now it’s time to break from Washington. Unbridled 3rd world immigration isn’t bringing us any greatness, just bad neighborhoods and economic drains. Again, look at what all those barbarians have done to England. If you’re from there then you have seen their crappy neighborhoods.
You are just quoting Obama. You have no idea what the military wants or needs. The fact is that Obama is slashing the military, and signing retarded treaties with foreign powers, like the nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia. What a dolt. He has no way of making Russia comply with his treaty.
I never said one thing about theocracy. Actually I’m much closer to anarchy than I am to theocracy, mainly I just want to be left alone. However, let’s say for the sake of argument that I did want to live in a hardcore theocracy. What difference could it possibly make to you if my community seceded and ran itself that way? Why should you care so long as you don’t have to be a part of it?
OK so tell me what it is you don’t have in common with the liberals then. Tell me where I’m wrong rather than just dismissing what I said as an ad hominem attack.
@Amandascowen - I don’t think RP got beaten out, I think it was rigged. They decided who they wanted and made it happen. Just like how the DNC decided to put God and an undivided Jerusalem back into their party platform even though the majority of the party was against it.
But see, a hardcore conservative candidate is what we need to get conservative voters excited again. Because there is a lot of lethargy on our side as a result of the candidates that they pick.
I don’t trust Obama, and especially not Biden. If they win then we can expect the debt to quadruple rather than double like it did during his first 4 years. But anyways, we’ll see what happens. If things get bad then I’m off to South Korea or China, and then I’m retiring to South America or India.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - it’s sort of an irony, there are a very large percentage of conservatives. But from I get they separate from ‘republican’ as a party. (more of an ideology, to a group of ethics, not connecting it to a party) Look at sat “DC Calamity, the political satire blogger. He claims conservatism…but he’s not for party favortism. That’s what i’m seeing overall in DC. MANY conservatives but not eaxctly reigning in republican or demcrat.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -
You’ve yet to confirm that the “NDAA” is the “National Defense Acquisitions Act,” which I believe it is, which means that IF President Obama had vetoed it, people (perhaps some like you) would be up in arms about the President weakening the military by not giving it the funds to operate.
You also can’t have it both ways: legislation is originated in the House of Representatives and/or Senate, and with the control of the House of Representatives resting with the Republicans, the language of the bill (now Act) must rest with those Representatives. It also appears that the 2013 version of the bill is rolling back some of the habeaus corpus measures (which I’m sure you’re referring to as “bad”) and incorporating Supreme Court rulings on similar matters. As Romney is the candidate for the GOP, why would he be a more desirable alternative, as surely he would either maintain or extend the provisions of the NDAA that you disagree with?
Your examples from the UK are isolated cases, and it is a grand stretch to make it apply to the whole country. I can raise similar instances here in the US – such as the school that banned cheerleaders from incorporating Bible verses into their pre-school banners before football games. It’s gone to court, but the judge has only ruled a temporary injunction to allow the cheerleaders to keep using Bible verses, but it’s not the final verdict yet. This is in Texas. You also have the undercurrent of racism present in the US that rears it’s head on a semi-regular basis, and you can’t talk about anything without racism becoming a factor. At best, your points are a wash.
There are always going to be negative situations in any country you visit or live in; no one country is “perfect” and any country that presents itself as such is hypocritical. For the US, I can point to the regular number of gun shooting sprees (including the most recent one in Wisconsin over this past weekend) that are limiting people’s “freedoms” to live - a far worse crime in my book than whether or not someone is allowed to say, or not say, certain phrases.
When did I ever say that North Korea was not Communist? Of course it’s Communist; it’s a well known fact. Even if you have read the Communist Manifesto that doesn’t dilute my point that there is ongoing redistribution of wealth in the United States – except that it’s moving upwards into the hands of fewer and fewer people while the wages of everyday workers have remained stagnant for the best part of three decades. Only third of that period – 1992 – 2000 and 2008-2012 – have come under Democratic Presidents, with the last Democratic President overseeing budget surpluses, the first in decades (despite Reagan in power). Any political scientist will tell you that the US is no where near becoming Communist, and as for Socialism? As I’ve pointed out previously, and you’ve ignored, the US is already socialist, and has been for decades.
The issue with theocracy is that it’s antithetical to democracy. You can’t have one with the other has by their very definitions they don’t allow dissent of any nature. The same with secession. What your idea of the ideal society may differentiate from your neighbors idea of the ideal society, so what are you going to do then? The beauty of democracy is that you are able to embrace numerous different opinions and explore numerous different paths without fear of reprisals, and if you don’t like the direction the country is taking, elections are the natural course corrector even before you bring in the principles of divided government and the separation of powers. As Winston Churchill famously said, “Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time” LINK Just because you disagree with certain policies or actions of one political party does not automatically make the case for secession, which raises another point: Where do you draw the boundary? Who do you include? What do you do with those who don’t want to move, for one reason for another, but don’t agree with secession? Ideologically split families? Secession sounds like a nice, clean solution, but it’s not. The 1860s proved that secession is futile, and even if the Union had let the Confederacy survive, economically, the South could not have succeeded in the long term: dirty little fact- the majority of Federal expenditures are spend in typically-Republican states such as Wyoming and the Dakotas. That money is drawn from the typically-Democratic states such as California and New York. LINK
Also, when are you going to make the positive case for Mitt Romney? How are his plans, ideas, statements going to change the current situation to the (more) positive?
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