July 30, 2012

  • Chic Fil-A is Doing Fine

    I believe that everyone is familiar with the stance that Chic Fil-A CEO has taken on marriage, and how it has deeply offended liberals.  I do not know why liberals are surprised by that.  They have made no secret of being a Christian run business.  They play Christian music in their restaurants, and they close down every Sunday.  Expecting them to be pro-homosexuality is about as ludicrous as expecting them to be pro-Evolution or pro-Abortion.  A closer look at them may also reveal that they are supporters of Zionism and are closer to nationalism than globalism.  So I one way I fail to understand why liberals are choosing to boycott now, because their stance should have been obvious. That being said, I have nothing against liberals for boycotting.  A few years ago I decided never to patronize McDonalds again because of their pro-gay stance.  That is how the free market works.  If you dislike a business because of the services or goods they provide, or because of a stance they take, you can boycott them.  I think if the fact that McDonalds was pro-gay was more widely dissiminated then most Christians would boycott them.

    In any event, when CEO Dan Cathy made his announcement it was immediately dissiminated by the liberal media so that everyone in the country knew about it in a matter of days.  At least, everyone with an internet connection or contact with people who do.  Since the liberal media is pro-gay, they naturally wanted to let all of their people (the liberals) know what was going on so they could be mobalized into action.  However, in spite of their spite, Chic-Fil-A seems to be doing as well as ever.  From approximately 11:00 to 2:00 they are packed out, with a long line of cars winding around the side of the building, and the interior of the restaurant is packed out as well.  I have never before seen a fast food restaurant so packed.  Burger King and Arbies do not get that kind of patronage. 

    The liberal media has said that Chic Fil-A is in trouble for taking a “contraversial stance” on “gay marriage.”  But are they really?  No not really.  First of all, being an advocate of traditional marriage is not contraversial.  It is part of traditional American values which, even though the morals here are in a sad state, most of us still believe.  It is the concept of “gay-marriage” which is contraversial.  The LM is trying to make the news rather than report it, and as usual they are weaving editorial content into news articles.  Second, liberals scream loudly so that people think they have more of a voice than they really do.  Especially the extreme liberals.  Maybe about 1% of the total US population is gay.  As for the amount of the population which is sympathetic for the gay cause, I would say it is a good deal less than half.  In every state where “gay marriage” comes up for a referendum vote it is voted down, even in notoriously left wing states like the Peoples Republic of California. 

    That being said, I don’t think Chic-Fil-A CEO Dan Cathy, or any of them, should back down from their arguments on gay marriage.  It is not going to hurt business, and even if it did, it is too late to do anything about it.  The toothpaste is already out of the bottle.  In any event, I have seen a good deal more comments on the Yahoo news where people have stated that they will now eat at Chic-Fil-A because of this than the reverse.  Even atheists and agnostics are saying they will patronize Chic-Fil-A because they are offended by the liberal attempts at brow beating.  I myself have made it a goal to eat at Chic-Fil-A at least once or twice a month now, because previously I had given up all fast food.  I was also previously offended with Chic-Fil-A for reducing the size of their sandwiches, but now I have to help out my fellow believers.  Anyways, Chic-Fil-A is good, so it is with no difficulty that I resume eating there. 

Comments (79)

  • I did not know about McDonald’s. I went and looked into it, and apparently the AFA boycott worked……A corporate executive for McDonald’s restaurants who had been on board of directors of the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce has stepped down. I don’t think this was broadcast in the news nearly as much at all. I am sure this makes the gay community angry that ot happened that way, and they are not getting the same results. I also think the difference is that McDonald’s decision was based on profits while Cathy’s decision will be based on faith.

  • It’s a sad state of affairs when sticking up for traditional marriage is deemed “radical.”

    There are few notions more radical than gay marriage.

  • I kind of expected this out of chick fil a.  I mean they have discriminated against cows for year.  It was the slippery slope in action.

  • @mtngirlsouth - Oh OK, that’s good to hear.  I didn’t know it worked.  Zero media coverage on that apparently.

  • @mtngirlsouth - First McDonalds, next Disney.

  • @PrisonerxOfxLove - Man…  It’s like up is down and right is left.  They are trying to invert everything and replace logic with a theory of the absurd. 

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I think Disney won the Christian right back when they made The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. But I don’t know.

  • This whole thing with mass boycotts is lame.

  • Yup, nothing like funding hate organizations. Money well spent! Endless fail.

  • The funniest part of this whole debacle are the comments from people that first say they’ve never eaten there bc of the “unhealthy” food or animal cruelty causes, then say they’re joining the boycott.

    FAIL

  • @RazielV - How is it a hate organization, and why are you surprised by their stance?  What did you expect?

  • Interesting.

    I don’t boycott due to personal beliefs, or I probably wouldn’t have anywhere to spend my money.

  • @mtngirlsouth - Which was the only one of those Narnia movies that was a semi-decent adaptation.  The rest were crap.  But anyways, does that undo their stance on homosexuality?  I think not.  Atlhough I can’t criticize because I still watch the Marvel movies and Disney owns Marvel.

  • @IntoTheWind1 - The term “liberal thought” is an oxymoron when referring to the vast multitudes of follwers on the left.

  • @xXrEMmUsXx - You have to pick your battles. 

  • A closer look at them may also reveal that they are supporters of Zionism
    I could go on and on about the consequences of Zionism (war) but that is not what this is about. Chik-fil-A sales have to be through the roof now since Christians are running towards the cholesterol. But Chick-Fil-A Approval Plummets

  • @RazielV - Thank you for your strong stance against hate.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - CFA has spent millions funding organizations like PFI. PFI was heavily involved in a suit against the over-turning of Prop 8. They also tried to block laws being passed in Pennsylvania to protect homosexuals and transgendered from discrimination. CFA openly supports groups like this with their own money. Money you paid them for their product. Fairly simple concept.

    It’s a fast food company. Why are they injecting religion into it? It’s illogical.

  • Eek! No more amazon, google, and microsoft for you! They are all pro gay along with Mc donalds. Amazon just gave 2.5 mil to a marriage equality effort in Washington.
    I’ve been boycotting chick fila for the past 6ish years. Despite the percent of gays (whatever it is), gay acceptance is rising. And according to gallup half of americans support gay marriage for the first time.
    Even my extremely conservative family is showing signs of sympathy towards gays. It’s remarkable, actually, to see the change!!!

  • @RazielV - It’s a private business, so they’re allowed to inject religion into it if they so choose, just the way that schools can choose to be religious. I don’t agree with their stance on gay marriage, but they have every right to their opinion, and they have every right to use their money to fund organizations that agree with their opinions. If McDonalds decides to be pro-gay marriage, they could donate their money to pro-gay marriage organizations. Maybe it wasn’t the smartest business move, but they’re standing up for what they believe in, just like the rest of us. No need to criticize them for that. If you don’t want to give them money, don’t, but everyone has a right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech, businesses included. 

  • @willjogforicecream - Actually I’m expressing my freedom of speech in speaking out against their funding and hate speech. Isn’t FoS wonderful? I can criticize if I so choose as is my right.

  • @RazielV - Go for it, but just try to remember that freedom of speech is a two way street. Most people seem to forget that nowadays…..

  • @willjogforicecream - o_o really? I don’t need a reminder on FoS. I recognize others’ right to say what they want, but I’ve noticed a disconcerting lack of recognition of my right to respond. People tend to think they can say and do anything they please and no one can respond. That’s a delusion.

  • @RazielV - Mr. Cathy never said that no one could respond, and neither did I. I just asked that you remember to be a little more open to the fact that other people have different opinions, and they also have as much right to those opinions as anyone else in this nation thanks to the Constitution. I just find it slightly odd that everyone is so surprised. Just because he said the words aloud (when prompted, btw – not just because he felt like getting everyone all riled up), everyone decided to go all judge-y on them…anyone with half a brain would have known their stance on the issue a long time ago. 

  • @RazielV - OK so you believe that traditional values are hate.  That is they typical liberal/cultural Marxist position, so it’s not surprising that you would think that.  I just wondered if you might have any logic involved in your adherence to that position.  But that brings me to my next question.  Since you hate traditional values, does that mean that you and all the left wing activist groups are haters and hate groups?

    The fact us that we are in a culture war.  I am glad to support them in their fight to perserve our society and culture.  My side wants to hang onto our values upon which our culture was based and which made us strong, while your side wants to turn everything upside down.  The fact is that we can never come to an agreement or understanding on how things should be.  I think the best thing is to split the country into liberal and conservative nations, but we’ll see what happens. 

  • @LadyboyRevolution - If you want to speak out against war then tell it to the Muslims with their ongoing war against infidels.  Also, try being openly gay in any Islamic country and see what happens.  Life expectency will suddenly drop to zero. 

    Of course liberals will boycott, we already knew this, but I do not entirely trust your source which is a left wing propaganda page, and I can tell from empirical observation that Chic-Fil-A is as crowded as ever.  No other fast food place is half as busy during lunch. 

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - “traditional values”? Marriage originally existed as a legal contract between two families to exchange goods (land, food, daughters, etc.). Marriage didn’t become equated with religion until the mid Medieval Ages. There’s nothing “traditional” about what’s being promoted by CFA and its fundees.

    And don’t assume to know my political standings. Demos are just as much at fault in this country as Repubs. This isn’t about politics. This is about people misusing religious belief to hurt others.

  • @willjogforicecream - I’ve been in a long-standing boycott of CFA well before his comments went public. Please don’t lecture me on being “tolerant” of others’ beliefs. I’ve spoken out against people trying to harm others for believing and I fully respect Cathy’s mindset. But I don’t respect or tolerate him acting on his beliefs by funding organizations that openly try to dehumanize and illegalize a group of people based on their sexual proclivity. There’s a large difference. So please cease the lectures; I’m far more educated on this matter than you’re giving me credit for and I find it a little insulting. Sorry if that sounded dickish, I didn’t intend it to. Not sure how better to express it.

  • @AncoraImparo - I never give any money to yahoo or google so no issues there.  Amazon is a place that I do shop at, mainly because it has so much and the pricing is so good.  However, I may consider boycotting it given what you have said, assuming that you are correct.

    The best way to gauge the opinion of public acceptance of homosexuality is to look at the referendum votes.  “Gay marriage” loses every time it is up for a vote.  The only time “gay marriage” ever gets through is when a judge forces it through.  There is definitely a process of moral decay in place, and the cultural marxists are certainly working to step it up, but different parts of the country are affected by it differently.  In my place, people are mostly exasperated with all that homosexuality talk.  In a liberal stare (northeast or northwest) it will no doubt likely have a higher level of approval. 

  • @RazielV - ”Hate speech” is a bullcrap concept.  But yes, you are free to say anything you want, and so are people on my side.  At least, right now we are.  Maybe with NDAA that will eventually go away.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I remember reading about similar arguments. It was back when blacks/African-Americans were fighting for equal rights. Like them, homosexuals will eventually win their freedoms and rights. Until then I will be sad for all those who speak against it out of hate and ignorance. Oppression is oppression no matter how you veil it.

  • @RazielV - Marriage originally existed as an institution designed by God, the first institution in fact, and the only institution created by either God or man that predates the fall of man.  Even after most of humanity forgot God, the institution of marriage prevailed in ALL cultures, which ought to carry some weight.  Although, some cultures allowed for polygamy.  Even in cultures where homosexuality was considered a legitimate behavior, and even when it was institutionally encouraged (Athens, Sparta), it was never viewed as marriage or as being on par with marriage.  The whole idea that marriage can be redefined or that can exist as something other than a union of male and female is a modern phenomona, and a product of cultural Marxism.  Chic-Fil-A is putting up some resistance to the impetus of cultural Marxism, and God will bless them for it. 

    Marriage is highly traditional.  Not only is it the primary avenue of reproduction for most cultures all throughout history, but it is also the traditional means by which cultures perpetuate themselves.  The family unit is the backbone of all societies, and data has shown that when that is undermined cultures cannot survive.  Look at the problem of white decline.  White people are going extinct, or at least western white people are, because of the decline of the family. 

    I said nothing of Republicans and Democrats, I said “Conservatives and Liberals.”  There is a difference, because you can have liberal Republicans, and there are even a few cases of conservative Democrats (although that is rare).  I disagree with the notion that unlimited diversity is good and that we can and should have people who are disparately different all crammed together under one roof.  A house divided against itself cannot stand.  What we need is to move away from globalism back toward nationalism.

  • @RazielV - Alright, first of all, rights do not come from humans, they come from God.  Second, being a different race is not a mental or psychological condition.  I’m not really sure which of my comments here you are responding to, but I have also argued with “zoophiles” before, and they use arguments which are taken almost verbatem from the pro-gay crowd.  They also feel opressed due to the lack of acceptance for their behavior, and they put your crowd in the same category with my people.  It’s because moral relativism is a slippery slope.  You don’t have any foundation to stand on. 

    If I were an atheist I may or may not approve of homosexuality.  For me it would depend on the level at which I cared whether or not society and culture continued.  If I was a nihlist, which is one of the most logical interpretations of atheism, then I probably would not care one way or the other, but if I was a progressive evolutionist and I cared whether or not humanity survived, then I could never support something which would be an evolutionary dead end.  Although I suppose from an evolutionary perspective you might also view homosexuality as a tool of natural selection, and consider that the specimens which take themselves out of the gene pool voluntarily are probably not fit anyways.

  • @willjogforicecream - The CEO’s statement in itself was a judgement…?

  • I stopped eating their food when they gave money to try and stop gay marriage in California. 

  • i was boycotting Chik-fil-a long before this.  ever since i found out they were hardcore Christian, i have refused to eat there.  

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    The whole idea that marriage can be redefined
    or that can exist as something other than a union of male and female is
    a modern phenomona

    You better ask the American Indians about that.

    Marriage is highly traditional.You better ask the American Indians about that. Yes gay marriage is “highly traditional”.data has shown that when that is undermined cultures cannot survive. The Netherlands (first country to legalize gay marriage) proves that your “argument” is HILARIOUS. 4% unemployment rate. The “fire and brimstone” has not descended upon them. Sorry but your argument is HILARIOUS when faced with facts. Good luck with that.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    What we need is to move away from globalism back toward nationalism.

    I will take Constitutionalism thank you very much. “conservatism” (with there 1000 military bases around the world) is completely opposed to Constitutionalism.

  • @LadyboyRevolution - Look at their birthrates in the Netherlands.  Before the next century the Dutch will be an extremely small minority in their own country.  They are being taken over by Muslims.  They are tolerant of homosexuality now, but by the end of the century they will be under Sharia law, so I don’t understand what point it is you are trying to make.

    What point are you trying to make about the Native Americans?  Your implication is lost on me.

  • @LadyboyRevolution - Now you’re just being silly.  A liberal claiming that their ideology is based on the Constitution would be like Michael Savage claiming that his ideology is based on the Communist Manifesto.  Either claim is equally ridiculous and should be dismissed as such.

    I find that most liberals are globalists, meaning that they support having a one world government, which is usually a universal socialist state which everyone will be forced to be part of.  Nationalism involves having political boundaries based on nations, and a nation is a people group.  You liberals and we conservatives are different nations.  If the country were to split along those lines both sides would be a good deal happier.  Or at least, our side would be.  But either way there would be no basis for conflict between us. 

  • It’s basically a two-faced thing.  We can dissent against anything these days, it seems, except against the homosexual lifestyle.  We can tear down groups for their stances for Christianity, the USA, speaking English, and taking out tyrant dictators, but the minute anyone says even a single, negative word against homosexuals and the way that they choose to live, the gloves come off.   In this there isn’t much of a difference between some extremist Muslim groups and homosexuals:  the minute someone says the tiniest thing against their chosen lifestyles, they are up in arms, boycotting, burning in effigy, and calling for action.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - 

    What point are you trying to make about the Native Americans?  Your implication is lost on me.

    American Indians had gay marriage for thousand of years before the murderers (Christians) introduced there NEW “tradition” of hate and intolerance. Gay marriage is the traditional position: Two-Spirits in American Indian Culture

    Sorry but your argument has been demolished

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    A liberal

    Calling me a liberal is more hilarious then calling Ron Paul a liberal.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - 

    Look at their birthrates in the Netherlands.  Before the next century the Dutch will be an extremely small minority

    Look at there birth rate in Manilla because of Christianity. Overpopulation has caused the starvation on a scale that is mind boggling. Children living, eating, and “surviving” in garbage dumps.

  • @JandJinJapan -

    In this there isn’t much of a difference between some extremist Muslim groups and homosexuals

    Please keep talking this is the best entertainment ever. If you want to protect your anti-gay marriage stance silence will be your best weapon. Smart people love to hear these “arguments”. It gives our side much meat to work with

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Yes I know, the video is just “evil liberal propaganda” even though it is steeped in real tradition not the new kid on the block (Christianity). 2000 years is a “walk in the park”.

  • @AncoraImparo -  Eeek!  No more gasoline for you!  OPEC and oil producing countries not only condemn homosexuality, it is punishable by death or imprisonment!  See how silly this gets?

  • @LadyboyRevolution - Alright, first of all, I am not a Native American, neither does our culture spring from that.  Second, the best you could do is find one example of a Native American Lesbian who kept multiple partners in her tent?  OK, I’ll concede that you found one example of “gay marriage” in a primitive culture, although that does not allow you to generalize about all Native Americans for all time as you have attempted to do.  For the most part Native Americans were very family oriented, like all traditional socieites.  In the case of Woman Chief you have a female imitating what the male chiefs are doing, that’s it.  That does not mean they conceptualized marriage in general as being something other than actual traditional marriage.  Also, the documentary was confusing because the narrator often referred to gay men as “she.” 

    Even so, you would be hard pressed to find any non-white country today that tolerates homosexuality. 

    So you hate Christians.  What about white people?  What is it about Native American culture that you find enviable beside the concept of “two spirits”?  Perhaps if you admire them so much you should take up a neolithic lifestyle.  You can run out into the woods, hunt all of your own food using stone arrows and spears, and you can skin them and wear the skins.  Sounds like fun yes? 

  • @LadyboyRevolution - SO what do you disagree with the liberals on?

  • @Big_Esh - Haha, that’s right.  Although I have to say that I don’t care for Islam any more than I care for the cultural marxists.  They are separate evils, but they are both still evil.  I would actually boycot gas if I could, but I have to get to work so…  What to do?

  • @JandJinJapan - It’s being used as an attack on free speech and freedom of religion. 

  • @LadyboyRevolution - Eastern countries have been heavily populated going back for thousands of years. They were densely populated well before Christianity even existed, and certainly before any European explorers ever arrived there.  Even if they are predominantly Catholic now, they still do not hold a candle to India or China in terms of population density.  There are a variety of factors that account for overpopulation in eastern countries.  Some are due to the fact that they are highly tradional and family oriented societies, so traditionally having lots of children reflected positively on the parents.  Also, with the advent of modern technology and improved medical techniques the infant mortality rate has been reduced, and it is taking some time for the rate of pregnancies to adjust to the lowered infant mortality rate.  Attributing their overpopulation and squalor to Christianity is like attributing blaming Christianity for their hair being a certain color.

    Evenso, having a high population density does not need to result in poor living conditions.  The South Koreans and the Japanese have done an excellent job creating a clean standard of living in spite of having a dense population.  I could go into details on what and how, and contrast them with some of the more destitute countries but chances are you don’t care.

    In any event, we were not talking about Eastern cultures, we were talking about western cultures.  Bringing up the Phillipines when talking about the problems here is about as pertinent as bringing up Mars when talking about the Tsunami that hit Japan.  Overpopulation is one problem, but ceasing to exist as a people is a much more serious problem.  If you think I’m being overly dramatic just look at the birth statistics of white people around the world.  The birth rates are insufficient to compensate for the death rates.  Overpopulation can be remedied over time but there is nothing that can be done to reverse an extinction.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -  I know, I keep hoping for a high speed rail system.

  • @Big_Esh - I’m hoping for biodiesel.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -  anything that takes american money out of the middle east and allows us to officially no longer have to walk on eggshells to please/regulate the oil tryrants is ok with me haha.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    The South Koreans and the Japanese have done
    an excellent job creating a clean standard of living in spite of having a
    dense population.

    Finally you made as good argument. South Korea has a booming economy. What is there trick???

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    There are a variety of factors that account
    for overpopulation in eastern countries.  Some are due to the fact that
    they are highly tradional and family oriented societies, so
    traditionally having lots of children reflected positively on the
    parents.

    My absolutely gorgeously beautiful fiance comes from a Christian family of 12. Goes to church at least 4 times per week. Unfortunately she lives in a rice field and cannot afford to pay attention. But it is amazing how much love permeates that Christian family. They focus on love not ideology.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

    SO what do you disagree with the liberals on?

    Almost everything except gay marriage. Republicans have become my target because of unconstitutional DOMA which affects me personally. Mark my words: They WILL BE SORRY they broke the constitution on this issue I can PROMISE you that!!!

  • Good read.  I totally agree with you.

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Both comments are filled with hilariously weak fallacies and poor arguments. You cannot prove that “God” created marriage. However, plenty of proof exists that it was a man-made construction designed solely to legalize the merger of two families. Nothing was “sacred” or “Godly” or “Christian” about any of the marriages before religion was forced into the equation. So your statement that “God designed marriage” is false. And there is plenty of procreation without marriage involved, which entirely debunks your statement of it being the “primary avenue of procreation”. No, the primary avenue of procreation is sex. People don’t get married and suddenly the woman is magically pregnant.

    And our rights are not divine-based. If they were we’d have little to none. Read the Bible. 90% of the things we do today would be punishable by death. Death. You’d be killed for wearing two-fabric blends. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense and totally sounds like something an omnipotent being would decree.

    Don’t try to argue with me using non-secular examples, because the very source of your argument is conflicted and contradictory. It was a document written by men for the sole purpose of pushing laws relevant to that time; a time of a lack of education and understanding on how the universe works. A time when people thought to fight an infection you cut the person open and let them bleed for awhile.

    There’s nothing wrong inherently with Christianity, but there’s a lot wrong with the people who pervert the teachings to push their bigoted agendas. Stop debauching good religions with bad translations and worse actions. Thanks <3

    When you’ve got a legitimately thought out argument, let me know. Ta.

  • @JandJinJapan - Yep, because Christians are being ever-so-nice to the homosexuals. And I don’t ever recall blacks having a hard time, or Christians, or the Irish, or Japanese, or Muslims, ad nauseum. And #fail

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  •  I am sick of everyone politicizing every little thing. It is ludicris. Let people be who are what they are and stop trying to change their minds by bully tactics. That goes for gay righs and freedom of religion.

  •  Well there is sucha thing as good business practice. And Chick-Fil-A, for all their wisdom and glory are somehow lacking this little iota.

  • @RazielV - First of all, God did not appear with the advent of Christianity.  The Bible very clearly states that marriage was the first institution and designed by God, which could explain why the institution of marriage antedates the institution of government.  There were some things in the OT that were punishable by death under the old covenant, but we live under the new covenant now.  That being said, if the old covenant were still around then I would be advocating stoning for homosexuality and zoophilia.  I would also be advocating polygamy.  I have no problem with following the laws of God, whatever they are.  That is where my morality comes from.  If I didn’t believe in God then I would treat life like a videogame, and take it about as seriously.  

    Your beliefs about the origins of marriage are just that, beliefs.  One thing to ponder, is that marriage is one of the things that separates humanity from animals.  Animals as you know have no concept of marriage or serial monogamy.

    Rights do come from God or they don’t exist.  No God means no laws or accountability beyond the human level, which means no rights.  Either rights exist independently of humanity, or not at all, and regardless of whether or not there is a God, you cannot manufacture a right any more than you can manufacture a new law of physics.

    Of course I realize you are an atheist, so I am well aware of the fact that moral laws do not exist as far as you are concerned.  All I have done so far is give you my position and the reasons why.  As I stated before, if you are an atheist the only reason you might have a problem with homosexuality is if you want humanity to survive.  But if you will, I will step into the role of an atheist for a moment:
    You have no rights, nobody does.  Whatever the majority wants to do they can because they have the power, and the same would be true on an individual basis.  But that’s OK, because nothing matters.  In the long run you’re just nothing, because once you die that’s it, and eventually the universe will be dead and all sentient life snuffed out, so in the long run whatever small difference you think you might have made, or whatever petty cause you latched onto it was all for nothing.  It’s all going to be the same no matter what you do, so you may as well go out and get sloshed and not think about anything because it’s all pointless and meaningless.  You may as well not complain about anything because nothing matters, and it looks like you’re just trying to make up your own religion when you pretend to have a cause and go crusading for it.

    OK I made a logical atheist argument dealing with nothing but facts we can agree on.  Let me see you produce an argument using facts and logic (no opinions) for why I should take your homosexuality any more seriously than say zoophilia?

  • @QueenMe - Thanks, thanks.  You have given me some hope.

  • @dw817 - Well they aren’t just concerned about what is best for business, otherwise they would also be open on Sundays.

  • @Big_Esh - That’s right.  I wish our politicians had that mindset.  BTW, what branch of the service are you in?

  • @LadyboyRevolution - I think a huge part of it is their work ethic, which is a common thread throughout most eastern civilizations.  Of course, Indians also have a really great work ethic but India is not nearly as nice or clean.  From what I gather the Koreans also have a good sense of cleanliness (check the story about the woman whose dog crapped in a train), and they are more orderly and pragmatic by nature.  When I was in India there were two things that I noticed they could do which would improve their living conditions by leaps and bounds.  One is, they could get a garbage collection service, and another is they could build up.  By build up I mean build buildings that are tall.  For some reason they seem to have an aversion to building buildings that are over 20 or 30 floors, so they spread out across the ground in crowded neighborhoods.  

  • @LadyboyRevolution - OK you lost me.  Is one of those pictures her and the other you?

  • @LadyboyRevolution - So it affects you how exactly?  You want to have a legally recognized gay marriage and you can’t?

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -

     So it affects you how exactly?  You want to have a legally recognized gay marriage and you can’t?

    I don’t give a flying f*** about a label or state recognition. I just want to be together with my fiance, work, and live like everyone else. But when an unconstitutional lawbreaker tries to tell me my relationship is “not worthy” them are FIGHTING words. I am not a man you want to upset. I am seriously reasonable. But when you come against me, my fiance, and our relationship, you damn better be locked and loaded!!!

  • @Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex -  Navy, I’m a nurse.  

  • @Big_Esh - Very cool.  I always admire the service people.  Just think, if you were in Israel you might get to be in some actual combat.

  • @LadyboyRevolution - OK so what’s the problem?  They won’t let her come because she’s Filipino?

  • RazielV - I’m sure of the Christians were, you’d have ample proof of such Christians-to-homosexuals hatred to back it up (and let’s not even consider the Westboro folks:  most Christian churches disown them as a cult)…wouldn’t you?  Ditto for the rest….

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